1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:30,710 [Music] 2 00:00:35,590 --> 00:00:33,030 how's it going everybody 3 00:00:38,950 --> 00:00:35,600 it is friday it's friday night here in 4 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:38,960 the uk so i put a shirt on 5 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,029 how is everyone today i hope you're all 6 00:00:48,869 --> 00:00:47,280 doing good good to see so many many of 7 00:00:50,310 --> 00:00:48,879 you in the live chat there i really 8 00:00:52,549 --> 00:00:50,320 appreciate it 9 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:52,559 um 10 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:54,079 uh yeah i'm just checking all my 11 00:00:59,270 --> 00:00:56,480 settings everything's looking good 12 00:01:00,869 --> 00:00:59,280 so before we uh bring some guests on i 13 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:00,879 just wanted to say i'm looking forward 14 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:04,159 to speaking to these guys tonight uapx 15 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:06,240 is an organization that i've um 16 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:08,880 supported from from the start really i 17 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:10,640 think we need more people like this 18 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:12,560 doing the work 19 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:13,680 and they've certainly been putting the 20 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:14,720 work in 21 00:01:17,109 --> 00:01:15,920 now this is going to be a bit of a 22 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:17,119 mixture of a conversation we're going to 23 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:18,960 be talking about serious stuff but also 24 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:20,320 just want to have 25 00:01:24,310 --> 00:01:23,119 an organic conversation you know 26 00:01:26,550 --> 00:01:24,320 so um 27 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:26,560 please keep it cool and calm and 28 00:01:30,310 --> 00:01:28,400 collected in the chat 29 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:30,320 um and we'll get through this without 30 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:31,920 any hiccups so 31 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:35,520 yeah thank you guys so let's uh 32 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:38,320 let's bring in some some chaps first of 33 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:40,479 all i'd like to introduce mr jeremy 34 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:43,360 mcgowan jeremy how are you i am doing 35 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:46,000 great vinnie how are you doing i'm not 36 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:47,600 bad at all my friend thank you so much 37 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:50,479 for for joining me tonight um 38 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:51,920 let's bring in 39 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:55,439 mr jason turner how's it going man how 40 00:02:00,630 --> 00:01:57,200 are you doing 41 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:00,640 uh let's bring in mr garyvoor he's oh 42 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:02,810 we can't because he is fashionably late 43 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:05,439 [Laughter] 44 00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:06,560 of course 45 00:02:10,469 --> 00:02:08,720 as always as always 46 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:10,479 i'm pretty sure this happened last time 47 00:02:15,350 --> 00:02:13,760 as well but gary we you know 48 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:15,360 i can give that to him it's cool he's 49 00:02:19,910 --> 00:02:17,760 allowed he's the he's the president el 50 00:02:22,869 --> 00:02:19,920 presidente 51 00:02:24,070 --> 00:02:22,879 he's mr mom 52 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:24,080 i'll tell you what 53 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:25,440 just for you brother i'll send him a 54 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:27,520 text message and yell at him 55 00:02:30,949 --> 00:02:29,120 do it man do it actually i should have 56 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:30,959 checked her 57 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:34,000 yeah that's all good so um 58 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:36,000 yeah i like i spoke to you guys just 59 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:37,440 just before now and i said i wanted this 60 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:38,640 to be a bit more of an organic 61 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:40,319 conversation because 62 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:41,920 we can talk about certain things with 63 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:44,000 regards to the 64 00:02:48,790 --> 00:02:46,400 uapx but we know that 65 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:48,800 currently you're under an nda 66 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:50,640 so maybe we should just remind people 67 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:52,720 about that if either one of you wants to 68 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:54,720 just just remind 69 00:02:59,750 --> 00:02:57,200 how that started and where we're at and 70 00:03:01,830 --> 00:02:59,760 how long's left just a brief kind of 71 00:03:04,229 --> 00:03:01,840 overview let's say 72 00:03:06,869 --> 00:03:04,239 yeah so basically uh we're going to have 73 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:06,879 to be very 74 00:03:10,309 --> 00:03:08,879 choosy in our descriptions right now 75 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:10,319 we've gotten 76 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:12,959 a secondary directive to not really 77 00:03:17,910 --> 00:03:15,840 discuss anything about 78 00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:17,920 the reason that we're under an nda the 79 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:20,959 information is out there previously 80 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:22,000 but 81 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:24,080 suffice it to say that our primary 82 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:26,480 expedition that we've completed was 83 00:03:31,430 --> 00:03:28,239 privately funded 84 00:03:33,589 --> 00:03:31,440 and because we received private funding 85 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:33,599 for that expedition 86 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:36,239 the individual or group who gave us the 87 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:38,000 money to do that 88 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:40,480 required a very specific mba 89 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:41,280 for 90 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:43,599 a while let me see if i can adjust the 91 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:46,400 gain on my mic 92 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:49,680 is that any better testing one two 93 00:03:52,869 --> 00:03:51,120 so 94 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:52,879 vinnie you're you're muted as well i'm 95 00:03:58,830 --> 00:03:56,000 on mute as well how amateurish uh 96 00:04:01,830 --> 00:03:58,840 sorry gary gary you're on mute by the 97 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:01,840 way i think he's on his phone 98 00:04:06,309 --> 00:04:04,000 and i think he's frozen 99 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:06,319 oh no he's not frozen 100 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:08,720 oh the joys are the joys of stream yard 101 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:15,190 yeah so what i was saying is is 102 00:04:19,349 --> 00:04:17,199 basically due to 103 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:19,359 the individual and group who privately 104 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:21,840 funded us they had a requirement uh that 105 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:24,800 we we sit on any announcements or 106 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:27,680 publications until a very specific date 107 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:30,639 so we can't uh really discuss it or or 108 00:04:36,550 --> 00:04:33,680 or talk about it our goal in the future 109 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:36,560 is to raise enough money 110 00:04:41,510 --> 00:04:38,880 to be able to conduct these expeditions 111 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:41,520 without having to be encumbered by these 112 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:42,960 ndas 113 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:44,240 yeah that makes sense and i mean it's 114 00:04:48,629 --> 00:04:45,919 fully understandable you're an 115 00:04:50,469 --> 00:04:48,639 organization that 116 00:04:51,909 --> 00:04:50,479 needed help i suppose 117 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:51,919 i mean i don't know how else to put it 118 00:04:56,469 --> 00:04:53,919 with with no funds coming in from 119 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:56,479 anywhere the opportunity to be able to 120 00:05:00,710 --> 00:04:58,479 be funded to go and do an expedition or 121 00:05:01,909 --> 00:05:00,720 research or anything like that 122 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:01,919 i guess you have to take those 123 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:04,240 opportunities so for me personally i 124 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:09,029 i am having some microphone problems so 125 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:10,720 you guys take it over until i can fix 126 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:11,440 this 127 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:13,840 yep cool no worries um 128 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:15,120 jason 129 00:05:19,189 --> 00:05:15,650 yeah yeah 130 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:19,199 [Laughter] 131 00:05:23,749 --> 00:05:20,720 how you doing man 132 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:23,759 i'm alive a little colder 133 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:25,360 it's cold yeah yeah we're supposed to 134 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:27,120 get slammed this weekend with some snow 135 00:05:30,469 --> 00:05:28,479 but 136 00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:30,479 the joy's living in the mountains 137 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:32,560 nice man 138 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:34,160 gary can you hear us give us a thumbs up 139 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:42,150 you caught me like 140 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:44,960 right as i'm about to travel 141 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:45,840 so 142 00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:48,400 i've got kids running around i've got 143 00:06:02,309 --> 00:05:59,110 that was that was jeremy 144 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:02,319 did i fix it no yeah 145 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:03,280 no 146 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:05,600 wait yeah you did i think testing 147 00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:07,680 testing one yeah that's a lot better a 148 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:09,039 lot better okay 149 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:10,400 sorry gary 150 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:12,080 hold on 151 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:14,800 i think gary's muting himself there yeah 152 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:16,720 sorry guys my yeah i'm about to have the 153 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:23,749 you know this is the joys of live 154 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:26,960 streaming so it's all good 155 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:28,960 gary um we were just 156 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:30,479 the first thing we just jeremy just 157 00:06:35,749 --> 00:06:33,039 spoke about was um well i sort of 158 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:35,759 started by saying that i was fully aware 159 00:06:39,590 --> 00:06:37,120 and i think a lot of people are that 160 00:06:40,870 --> 00:06:39,600 you're currently under an nda so i 161 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:40,880 didn't expect you guys to be able to 162 00:06:44,629 --> 00:06:42,720 come on here and give us any huge 163 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:44,639 revelations or talk about anything you 164 00:06:48,309 --> 00:06:45,919 did with your expeditions that were 165 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:48,319 funded 166 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:50,080 and then jeremy just gave us a brief 167 00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:52,160 reminder of how that sort of came about 168 00:06:55,189 --> 00:06:53,120 i don't know if there's anything you 169 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:55,199 want to add to that you know as you were 170 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:56,800 funded to go out and do 171 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:59,199 an expedition as it were 172 00:07:03,189 --> 00:07:00,880 totally understand 173 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:03,199 yeah yeah we can't really talk about the 174 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:05,440 uh the apparently we can't talk about 175 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:07,759 what it is either anymore according to 176 00:07:12,469 --> 00:07:10,240 the person that uh 177 00:07:14,710 --> 00:07:12,479 either way we may or may not have done 178 00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:14,720 something that was paid for by somebody 179 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:18,319 at one time with our equipment 180 00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:19,919 nice and clean do you think that'll 181 00:07:23,589 --> 00:07:21,759 cover the nba guys 182 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:23,599 yeah that's that was the short version 183 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:24,720 of what i said 184 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:26,000 yeah of course people couldn't hear me 185 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:27,840 when i said it so 186 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:30,479 but uh basically in a nutshell uh be on 187 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:32,639 the lookout for something from us around 188 00:07:36,870 --> 00:07:35,199 uh april may time frame 189 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:36,880 um 190 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:40,000 once once that drops then 191 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:41,840 uh we're gonna be able to be a lot more 192 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:43,440 candid about 193 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,639 what we have 194 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:46,800 and uh the only thing i wanted yeah 195 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:48,000 there's a rumor out there that we have 196 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:50,800 like 600 hours of like raw footage of 197 00:07:55,749 --> 00:07:52,560 just ufos 198 00:07:57,189 --> 00:07:55,759 uh or uap uh that's uh that's a bit 199 00:08:02,869 --> 00:07:57,199 exaggerated 200 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:04,550 data but 201 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,400 it has not been 202 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:08,319 analyzed and we don't know exactly 203 00:08:11,749 --> 00:08:10,240 what's on everything yet 204 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:11,759 yeah i saw a couple of clickbait 205 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:13,120 headlines like 206 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:16,000 scientific group has 600 hours of ufo 207 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:17,520 for i mean i saw them when they dropped 208 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:20,160 and i was like oh no this is gonna 209 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:21,680 this is gonna look bad people are gonna 210 00:08:25,510 --> 00:08:23,360 start getting the wrong impression and 211 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:25,520 you know how things spread and yeah i 212 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:27,039 know it was funny too because when we 213 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:30,400 crafted that press release it was 214 00:08:34,790 --> 00:08:32,959 everybody on the entire uapx team read 215 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,800 the press release gave their edits we 216 00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:36,719 had our physicists look at it 217 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:39,120 we all approved of the wording that was 218 00:08:44,389 --> 00:08:42,000 in the press release and then within 219 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:44,399 minutes of that thing dropping people 220 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:47,920 had taken uh the the tag lines and 221 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:49,839 changed them to make it sound like 222 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:52,560 something that it was totally not yeah 223 00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:53,680 yeah 224 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:55,360 didn't take him long at all i mean i saw 225 00:08:58,150 --> 00:08:57,040 it that morning i mean it was morning 226 00:09:00,310 --> 00:08:58,160 for me 227 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:00,320 woke up saw the press release posted it 228 00:09:05,910 --> 00:09:03,440 and even i was seeing things within 229 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:05,920 30 to 60 minutes like 230 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:09,360 no this is not what it says like come on 231 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:14,070 just to get to 232 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:16,399 to to the point of disclosure that they 233 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:17,839 you know that 234 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:20,880 i don't know and it's also to 235 00:09:25,509 --> 00:09:22,640 generate you know traffic to their 236 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:25,519 websites of course so yeah a lot of 237 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:27,760 times you gotta you've really gotta just 238 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:29,760 use your discernment 239 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:32,240 yeah and you know to be to be clear 240 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:33,279 we 241 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:35,279 during 242 00:09:39,030 --> 00:09:37,440 at least two expeditions that we've gone 243 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:39,040 on we have collected 244 00:09:45,509 --> 00:09:42,240 hundreds of hours of video 245 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:45,519 yeah it's almost impossible for anybody 246 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:48,240 any group anywhere to analyze things in 247 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:49,519 real time 248 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:51,760 so when we go on an expedition we have 249 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:53,760 all of our equipment you know pointed at 250 00:09:58,150 --> 00:09:56,080 the sky our cameras are rolling and 251 00:09:59,590 --> 00:09:58,160 they're rolling for 24 hours a day seven 252 00:10:01,990 --> 00:09:59,600 days a week or as long as we're out 253 00:10:05,269 --> 00:10:02,000 there so obviously we're going to have 254 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:05,279 hundreds upon hundreds of hours of video 255 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:08,720 now it's the onus is up on us 256 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:11,760 to sift through the video use the custom 257 00:10:16,829 --> 00:10:13,680 code that our physicists are developing 258 00:10:20,069 --> 00:10:16,839 and attempt to find 259 00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:20,079 anomalous objects in in the video um 260 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:21,920 when we do that then we go through you 261 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:23,440 know standard procedures to try to 262 00:10:26,870 --> 00:10:25,279 explain all of those 263 00:10:29,590 --> 00:10:26,880 what we're left with 264 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:29,600 is it remains to be you know known until 265 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:32,480 we've finished the analysis so while 266 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:34,560 everybody is saying we have 600 and some 267 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:37,120 hours of ufo video that's not true we 268 00:10:44,470 --> 00:10:39,600 have hundreds of hours of video from 269 00:10:45,509 --> 00:10:44,480 multiple locations of which we may have 270 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:45,519 uap 271 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:48,160 in there after our analysis 272 00:10:52,389 --> 00:10:50,000 yeah totally and these are not just 273 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:52,399 videos are they isn't it multiple sensor 274 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:55,360 systems too yes to some degree are you 275 00:10:57,990 --> 00:10:57,040 able to talk us through the kind of 276 00:11:00,389 --> 00:10:58,000 different 277 00:11:03,269 --> 00:11:00,399 systems and sensors that you have 278 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:03,279 utilized not necessarily for 279 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:04,240 the 280 00:11:09,750 --> 00:11:07,200 nda mission or expedition but in general 281 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:09,760 what you've got or had access to in the 282 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:12,240 last 12 months 283 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:14,720 yeah we we've had a really good working 284 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:16,880 relationship uh with a university who 285 00:11:22,630 --> 00:11:20,560 has uh kindly loaned us some equipment 286 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:22,640 uh we've acquired equipment that was 287 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:26,160 designed by uh some folks at mit 288 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:29,600 which is a piece of tech that detects 289 00:11:32,870 --> 00:11:32,240 cosmic rays but more specifically muons 290 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:32,880 and 291 00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:38,240 uh we utilize uh custom built quantum 292 00:11:42,550 --> 00:11:40,880 random number generators which are in 293 00:11:45,190 --> 00:11:42,560 place so that 294 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:45,200 the idea to be clear we don't expect 295 00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:46,640 anything to show up on the quantum 296 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:48,720 random number generator we just don't 297 00:11:53,269 --> 00:11:51,040 expect it but what it is is it's up and 298 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:53,279 running and it's creating basically a 299 00:12:01,750 --> 00:11:57,360 stream of ones and zeros and 300 00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:01,760 the idea is that if a uap appears 301 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:04,320 perhaps their propulsion system or 302 00:12:10,069 --> 00:12:07,279 something about it would cause some sort 303 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:10,079 of quantum flux that affects the output 304 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:12,320 of the quantum random number generator 305 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:14,560 so when this is time stamped and synced 306 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:17,680 with the uh the flair systems and 307 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:19,120 the survey meters and everything else 308 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:21,839 that we're using it just lends to be 309 00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:24,320 corroborating data but to be honest we 310 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:27,040 don't expect it to show anything 311 00:12:29,829 --> 00:12:28,560 so you've got flare systems you just 312 00:12:31,990 --> 00:12:29,839 mentioned i assume you've just got 313 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:32,000 standard video are there any other 314 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:34,480 spectrums of vision i mean i'm not very 315 00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:36,480 technical so forgive me but are there 316 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:38,399 any other you know things like that that 317 00:12:40,949 --> 00:12:39,279 are 318 00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:40,959 pointed upwards as well 319 00:12:45,829 --> 00:12:43,680 oh yeah unfortunately we can't quite go 320 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:45,839 into a lot of that just because it's 321 00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:47,920 kind of content for the 322 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:49,760 unsaid project that we're not allowed to 323 00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:52,240 talk about 324 00:12:58,230 --> 00:12:55,440 i understand completely and 325 00:13:00,069 --> 00:12:58,240 yeah i won't ask anymore no i was fully 326 00:13:02,389 --> 00:13:00,079 aware that these things might crop up 327 00:13:03,910 --> 00:13:02,399 and this is kind of again i think it's a 328 00:13:07,430 --> 00:13:03,920 good thing in a way because it gives 329 00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:07,440 people an idea of where you're at 330 00:13:11,110 --> 00:13:09,519 where you've been and what you can and 331 00:13:13,030 --> 00:13:11,120 can't say because you're tight you're 332 00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:13,040 tied into something and the frustration 333 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:14,399 that we're under 334 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:15,519 right 335 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:17,120 and as much as p as much as we're 336 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:19,120 frustrated we realize that everybody 337 00:13:22,629 --> 00:13:21,040 else out there is frustrated as well 338 00:13:24,389 --> 00:13:22,639 because we did release the end of your 339 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:24,399 statement people got the idea that we 340 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:26,560 have data and we do have data we just 341 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:28,480 don't know what it says yet right 342 00:13:30,550 --> 00:13:29,200 so 343 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:30,560 one of the things that we're looking 344 00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:32,720 forward to in the future is really being 345 00:13:38,230 --> 00:13:34,480 able to nail down 346 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:38,240 a cohesive strategy for fundraising 347 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:41,040 that way we never have to suffer through 348 00:13:45,189 --> 00:13:43,120 the ndas ever again 349 00:13:46,389 --> 00:13:45,199 and we're going to look towards the 350 00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:46,399 community we're going to look towards 351 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:49,199 the general population and hopefully 352 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:52,560 they vent their frustration with this 353 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:53,360 through 354 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:56,000 their donations to uapx because the more 355 00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:57,519 that they contribute 356 00:14:02,069 --> 00:13:59,680 the less we have to deal with with 357 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:02,079 direct third-party funding and the more 358 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:05,040 open access and real-time events we can 359 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:06,639 pass on to the public 360 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:08,240 yeah that makes complete sense and one 361 00:14:10,389 --> 00:14:09,600 thing i will say is that i can imagine 362 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:10,399 that 363 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:15,360 there looking in may feel 364 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:17,040 the only thing that i can say is if you 365 00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:19,760 hadn't have accepted the funding to be 366 00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:21,440 under the nda then 367 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:23,360 you wouldn't have gone out and got any 368 00:14:27,189 --> 00:14:25,920 hundreds of hours of data or anything so 369 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:27,199 you know the fact that people have to 370 00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:28,720 wait and they're like well we want it 371 00:14:32,629 --> 00:14:31,360 now like well just think about that if 372 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:32,639 they hadn't got this funding and we're 373 00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:34,480 under this nda and we had to wait till 374 00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:36,480 april or may we wouldn't be getting 375 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:38,079 anything in april or may no matter how 376 00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:39,440 big or small i don't know what you've 377 00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:41,279 got but you know i think you understand 378 00:14:45,189 --> 00:14:43,199 the point where i'm coming from and 379 00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:45,199 you know 380 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:46,800 there's no two ways about it you kind of 381 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:48,320 have to take these things and i 382 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:50,560 completely 383 00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:51,600 i get it 384 00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:52,959 and one thing that i want to make sure 385 00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:55,519 everybody understands is that 386 00:15:02,069 --> 00:14:58,480 regardless of the source of funding it 387 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:02,079 does not affect our results 388 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:06,000 we we don't bend towards a narrative and 389 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:09,040 we don't change the data to reflect the 390 00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:11,920 wishes of whoever it is that donated the 391 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:12,800 money 392 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:14,720 yeah no absolutely 393 00:15:20,230 --> 00:15:17,279 so i hope that for anybody out there 394 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:20,240 that was unsure or frustrated about that 395 00:15:24,629 --> 00:15:22,800 i mean i hope that lays it out a bit 396 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:24,639 more understandably for you 397 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:27,680 so we won't dwell on that too much one 398 00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:29,440 thing i wanted to kind of just 399 00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:31,920 get or is going back a little bit is to 400 00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:33,920 probably the early days of uepx and it 401 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:34,880 was 402 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:35,680 you know 403 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:38,240 it was kevin day i think that was 404 00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:39,680 the one that kind of i don't know if he 405 00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:41,360 set it up or was 406 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:42,959 you know the lead 407 00:15:47,670 --> 00:15:45,360 guy let's say but i'd be very interested 408 00:15:50,629 --> 00:15:47,680 to know how things started and then 409 00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:50,639 changed over the past year or two from 410 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:52,880 you know with yourself gary becoming the 411 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:54,800 president and that are you able to just 412 00:16:02,470 --> 00:15:56,399 give us a little bit of how that that 413 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,310 no worries no worries 414 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:07,829 jason you want to take over for gary for 415 00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:08,880 a moment 416 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:12,079 yeah so well here's what uh kevin 417 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:14,320 originally came to us with the idea of 418 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,920 creating uapx kevin day did yeah and of 419 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:19,680 course you know a lot of us were like oh 420 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:22,959 heck yeah you know and then uh we 421 00:16:27,269 --> 00:16:24,880 were kind of loosely affiliated with 422 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:27,279 everything and it was just kind of 423 00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:30,000 everybody to each you know their own man 424 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:31,759 for here and here and here and here and 425 00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:35,600 here and it was just really disorganized 426 00:16:39,749 --> 00:16:37,839 not to the fault of kevin you know and 427 00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:39,759 not to the fault of anyone it's just the 428 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:40,720 way that 429 00:16:44,949 --> 00:16:43,279 that the cards fell uh when you know 430 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:44,959 when we all came in here together gary 431 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:47,920 you're kind of sideways 432 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:51,120 fix yourself 433 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:52,800 there we go 434 00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:55,680 okay and there he goes so then uh you 435 00:16:58,870 --> 00:16:57,519 know it it got to the point where we 436 00:17:05,350 --> 00:16:58,880 were 437 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:05,360 gary and i had talked to kevin and and 438 00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:07,360 kevin kind of you know he did the he did 439 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:09,679 the the one thing that it's hard for 440 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,760 anybody who creates something to do and 441 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:13,760 that was to kind of give the reins over 442 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,280 to gary and let him run it and um 443 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:19,679 you know it we needed some organization 444 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:22,000 and that's what we started doing and um 445 00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:23,679 you know 446 00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:25,520 some people kind of got up 447 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:26,799 and that's okay 448 00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:28,400 you know you know 449 00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:29,840 it is what it is 450 00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:31,280 and um 451 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:34,799 i i took over as vp there for a while of 452 00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:37,520 the organization and then um i went to 453 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,120 gary and uh 454 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:41,360 and i had an idea and that was to 455 00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:43,760 separate the science from the 456 00:17:49,270 --> 00:17:46,559 administration part of the organization 457 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:49,280 in general and that's you 458 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:50,880 and that's when i decided to kind of 459 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:52,160 step aside 460 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:53,520 and let uh 461 00:17:59,750 --> 00:17:55,919 kevin knuth 462 00:18:02,950 --> 00:17:59,760 take over as vp for me it's just 463 00:18:04,390 --> 00:18:02,960 it made sense to have someone of 464 00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:04,400 his caliber 465 00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:06,880 uh running on the the vice president's 466 00:18:12,150 --> 00:18:09,919 side and also over all the scientific uh 467 00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:12,160 stuff while we grunt workers are just 468 00:18:15,669 --> 00:18:13,280 over here 469 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:15,679 doing what we do and um 470 00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:17,679 you know it's it's kind of taken a bit 471 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:19,360 to get used to and everybody just kind 472 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,520 of getting used to their roles and but 473 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:24,000 but i feel like as of now things are 474 00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:26,240 really starting to um 475 00:18:32,150 --> 00:18:29,679 to fall into place and uh you know 476 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:32,160 we've taken some hits and that's okay 477 00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,240 of course you know and that's that's 478 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:35,919 that's the one thing i want to really 479 00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:38,320 kind of reiterate to people that you 480 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:39,039 know 481 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:42,640 as long as i'm still in the company 482 00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:44,880 and i'll just keep rebuilding i don't 483 00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:46,400 really care 484 00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:47,919 you know people are going to come and go 485 00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:49,280 some people will leave on their own 486 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,039 accord some people 487 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:53,360 get removed from the company for this 488 00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:56,640 reason or that reason but i think that 489 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:58,960 at this point we're 490 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:01,520 all a lot of people that could be 491 00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:03,600 removed 492 00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:06,400 if that makes any sense because 493 00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:08,880 you know when you inherit something you 494 00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:10,880 kind of inherit the whole package and 495 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:12,480 then kind of have to sort through 496 00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:13,600 everything 497 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:15,039 now you know there's a lot of 498 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:16,880 personality differences with a lot of 499 00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:18,960 the people that have left the company 500 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:23,039 and me and and generally 501 00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,480 you know i don't agree with a lot of 502 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,320 these guys half the time 503 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,559 but that's the point you know i mean me 504 00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:30,160 and jeremy go back and forth me and 505 00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:32,240 jason go back and forth but the people 506 00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:33,919 that are left 507 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,039 you know these are some of the most 508 00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,440 intelligent creative 509 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:39,520 talented people i've ever worked with 510 00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:41,440 you know so 511 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:43,520 you know as long as i've got 512 00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:45,760 such a diversity of people 513 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:47,360 we're going to continue to 514 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,160 you know grow and you know even right 515 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,160 now now that we've split the split the 516 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:54,400 company into two halves where you know 517 00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:56,880 me jeremy and jason are basically 518 00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:59,039 dealing with uh you know 519 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:01,360 developing the company's administration 520 00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:04,240 side developing the you know uh you know 521 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:06,480 revenue for the company developing you 522 00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:08,880 know all of the support mechanisms to 523 00:20:12,549 --> 00:20:09,919 allow 524 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:12,559 kevin and his science team 525 00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:14,960 to do the research you know and then 526 00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:18,320 then when we go do a 527 00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,159 one of these expeditions then it's all 528 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:22,559 hands on deck you know then then that's 529 00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:25,679 when you know the grunts like us can you 530 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:28,000 know kind of sit in and you know set 531 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:29,200 cameras uh 532 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:32,720 record data you do data sets so that 533 00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,480 when we do go back that we have this 534 00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:36,559 very very specific data to go through 535 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:38,960 where we can correlate all of this data 536 00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:40,000 together 537 00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:42,720 to create these event situations that 538 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:44,159 can't be 539 00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:49,590 well they're not easily disproved once 540 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:51,200 you get all the correlative data 541 00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:54,720 together and yeah it doesn't prove 542 00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:56,960 anything other than 543 00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:58,880 either something happened or there was 544 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:01,200 something going on at that time you know 545 00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:03,840 so that's that's the other thing that 546 00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:05,840 people need to realize is that we are 547 00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:08,480 coming from uh we're not doing 548 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,679 well 549 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:11,760 we're not really sitting in a circle 550 00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:13,600 hoping that something comes down and 551 00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:14,799 talks to us 552 00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,679 um 553 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:17,440 or anything like that i'm not trying to 554 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:19,039 discourage anybody from doing that i 555 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:20,000 actually 556 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:23,200 have been going to one of these groups 557 00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:25,120 pretty locally 558 00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:27,919 to me uh jeremy uh you really need to 559 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:30,880 fix that sound board 560 00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:32,960 my home alarm system the dog just went 561 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:35,039 out back 562 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,760 well uh you know so we can uh 563 00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:39,600 it's just so that we can 564 00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:44,240 maximize our efforts and 565 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:46,960 maximize every dollar that we do have 566 00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:49,120 you know so we we don't have you know 567 00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,520 we're we're self-funded and 568 00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:53,919 by by donation only 569 00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:55,919 we don't we're not we don't 570 00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,840 the one time we ventured into having 571 00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,679 somebody pay for things 572 00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:01,840 you know the great opportunity that we 573 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:02,640 had 574 00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:04,720 you know it's still so restrictive you 575 00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:07,280 know uh i don't like the restrictions 576 00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:08,000 but 577 00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:10,080 you know the opportunity was so good we 578 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,600 took it you know so 579 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,440 but uh you know it's still 580 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:17,120 you know but then the company and data 581 00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:18,960 still remained with us which is the only 582 00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:22,159 reason why we accepted it so it's 583 00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,000 it's a long haul and it's gonna be a 584 00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,960 long it's gonna be a longer haul for us 585 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:28,799 all to get to where we really want to be 586 00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:30,799 but 587 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:33,200 i think once our ball is rolling then 588 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,799 it's going to 589 00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,440 be pretty exponential at that point 590 00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:39,679 yeah i completely agree to be honest and 591 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,679 one thing you just said there is you you 592 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:43,280 called yourself grunts and you even put 593 00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:44,640 yourself in with that gary and that 594 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:47,039 shows a good structure that as president 595 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,480 you still put yourself on that same 596 00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,400 level as the rest of the team so the 597 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:52,000 structure's right the friendships are 598 00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:53,600 right and that comes across to me 599 00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,000 personally that well everybody in the 600 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:58,240 company i i consider family you know i 601 00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:00,240 mean these guys these guys you know i 602 00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,080 care about their them their families you 603 00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:04,080 know somebody pops on the signal it's 604 00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,880 like hey uh you know i got i got this 605 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,720 with my daughter or i got this with my 606 00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:10,240 parents or i'm going to be out of town 607 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,480 with some family it's just like okay 608 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,320 you know just whatever is expected from 609 00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:16,400 there and there's stops and it's done 610 00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:17,440 you know it's 611 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:19,600 you know i mean plus you know a lot a 612 00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:21,520 lot of uh you know 613 00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:23,679 we're lucky where you know i i got lucky 614 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,120 where i was able to have a situation 615 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:27,520 where i could do this full-time 616 00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:28,960 you know jason 617 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:31,440 has commitments a lot of commitments but 618 00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:32,640 he definitely 619 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:33,919 you know is 620 00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,880 basically almost full-time uh jeremy you 621 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:38,799 know while he's in his uh you know job 622 00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:39,760 hunt 623 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:42,159 is basically working full-time too you 624 00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:43,440 know so 625 00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:45,279 we've got a lot of work that we're 626 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:46,880 trying to get done now while we have the 627 00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,039 opportunity to do it so that 628 00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:50,559 you know hopefully we may be able to 629 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:52,880 hire people to eventually 630 00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:55,120 do some of this full-time administrative 631 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,720 work later on 632 00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:58,640 you know that's that's the ultimate goal 633 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,880 is to start having employees start you 634 00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,880 know being able to 635 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:04,480 uh you know have people that really know 636 00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:05,840 what they're doing 637 00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:07,279 start cool 638 00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,960 at least with administration you know i 639 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,799 mean that just that stuff just gets 640 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,480 sticky i mean i've had 641 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:14,080 you know filling out that that 642 00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:16,000 non-profit paperwork you know i had to 643 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,880 do it line by line uh look at look up 644 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,880 about a billion definitions because just 645 00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,400 because you think that you know what 646 00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:24,159 something means it doesn't mean that the 647 00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,880 irs defined it that way 648 00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:28,240 so 649 00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:29,520 and of course you know that that 650 00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,960 definition could be different so you got 651 00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,880 to be double checked because uh there's 652 00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,480 a couple of things i checked and 653 00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,240 apparently i grabbed the i checked it 654 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:38,240 from the wrong year's version of the 655 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:43,510 so you basically kind of have to learn a 656 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:46,880 basic cpa skill set just to get it done 657 00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,640 and uh it was it took me a while uh but 658 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:53,360 it got done and it's it's now just in a 659 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,840 review process right now so that i know 660 00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,480 that i didn't completely jack it up 661 00:25:01,110 --> 00:25:00,480 and then then we're going to submit that 662 00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:01,120 probably 663 00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,640 [Music] 664 00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:04,559 i get back in like two weeks it'll 665 00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:06,240 probably be submitted right when i first 666 00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:08,960 get back uh in two weeks 667 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:10,000 all right 668 00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:11,200 yeah and then it's all dependent on the 669 00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:13,600 federal government to approve it or tell 670 00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:14,559 them 671 00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,640 the paperwork and send it back to us for 672 00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:17,679 an edit 673 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:19,120 yeah but this is the thing as well i 674 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,480 think it's important to show people that 675 00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,240 you're just regular guys like everybody 676 00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:24,640 that could be me or everyone in the chat 677 00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:26,080 here who are just 678 00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:28,320 taking upon themselves to do something 679 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:30,880 within this field and you're not 680 00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,840 different 681 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,600 than than the average joe and that and i 682 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,840 don't mean that in a negative way or a 683 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,159 derogatory way i'm sitting in my truck 684 00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:39,760 doing this interview with you because 685 00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:41,039 i've got 686 00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,039 four boys and my daughter sitting in the 687 00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,039 house because uh my 688 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,880 life happens my brother's kids got 689 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:48,720 kicked out of their daycare and now 690 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,240 guess whose house they get to go to 691 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,480 after school every day you know so that 692 00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:54,240 was something that just happened so it's 693 00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:55,760 like 694 00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,600 that's life you know and luckily my 695 00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:59,440 sister-in-law is gonna hang out here for 696 00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,640 a little bit to make sure they don't 697 00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:02,159 kill each other while i'm sitting out 698 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:04,000 here with you guys but uh you know 699 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:05,520 probably at the top of the hour i'll 700 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:08,080 probably have to head out but 701 00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:09,200 um 702 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:10,240 you know uh 703 00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,640 kristen thompson asked a a question 704 00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,039 where where is uapx in five years which 705 00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:17,279 i thought was was a great question 706 00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:18,159 and 707 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:26,240 do our job right 708 00:26:29,540 --> 00:26:28,720 we don't have to be here in five years 709 00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,550 nice 710 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:31,039 [Laughter] 711 00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:32,720 well if we do our job right we'll be 712 00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:35,360 developing new technology in five years 713 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:37,039 yeah our mission statement will change 714 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:38,240 our mission statement will have to 715 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:39,760 change a little bit from 716 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,320 trying to figure out what uaps are to 717 00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,480 uh studying the technology and 718 00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:47,039 developing new technology from uaps you 719 00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,159 know so 720 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,240 and i mean even if we because like our 721 00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,480 first goal is basically 722 00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:54,559 almost done to be honest because with 723 00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:56,559 the federal government basically saying 724 00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:58,159 that these things are real 725 00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:59,679 you know that's like half the battle 726 00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:01,760 right there i mean yeah everybody wants 727 00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:03,360 to hear you know hear all the nitty 728 00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:05,039 gritty stories that everybody's been 729 00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:07,279 told in the back channel since you know 730 00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:08,880 the 30s 731 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,679 but 732 00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,200 we kind of have to grow up with that 733 00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:13,039 that's not going to happen 734 00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,480 you're lucky to get what you got from 735 00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,400 2003 on 736 00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,919 and that's all that that's where it's 737 00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,279 going to stay they're never going to 738 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,360 admit anything back past that 739 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:24,080 it's too too much liability too many 740 00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:25,600 you know too many careers that ended 741 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,080 over over stigmas uh too many too much 742 00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,720 uh too much lost revenue over over 743 00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:32,320 issues you know 744 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:33,840 you know god forbid you get into the 745 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,480 really dark and nasty stuff yeah i think 746 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,000 i think that's what that's what kind of 747 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:40,080 puts us you know differently here is 748 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,840 because like 749 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:42,960 when you 750 00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,880 say taking funds and grants and stuff 751 00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:46,559 from the federal government they once 752 00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:48,399 they get their hands in 753 00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:50,640 to an organization uh they don't take 754 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,039 their hands out and that's a problem 755 00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:54,880 that becomes a huge problem within the 756 00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,720 community and um that's something we're 757 00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,559 going to try to avoid like the plague 758 00:28:02,389 --> 00:27:59,600 because 759 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,399 you know once now once you give over 760 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,640 the reins of your organization 761 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:06,240 to meet the demands of the federal 762 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:07,679 government 763 00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,480 now you you have to you know 764 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,720 not now you're silenced and no thank you 765 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:13,919 nothing 766 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,230 or with 767 00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:22,880 this or any other government we haven't 768 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,799 taken federal funding 769 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:27,600 we get no grant money we haven't gotten 770 00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:30,240 any government contracts and we don't 771 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,960 directly supply any of our data to any 772 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,480 of the intelligence communities once 773 00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:36,559 it's out there we can't stop them from 774 00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,960 looking at it or using it but we don't 775 00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,320 give it to them 776 00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,320 and a lot of folks out there think that 777 00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:44,880 uapx when we say that we're collecting 778 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,960 data they think that we're collecting 779 00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,200 historical data from past cases or from 780 00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:51,600 the cia reading room or something that's 781 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,279 not it we have a full team with a a 782 00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,440 plethora of equipment out there boots on 783 00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,559 the ground 784 00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:00,720 getting the data in real time 785 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:01,679 we're not 786 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,039 you know if if we record something we 787 00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:07,120 record it if we don't we don't 788 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:08,799 that's right so this is data that you go 789 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,029 we're not interested in seeing anybody's 790 00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:17,600 cool footage i mean i i'm not trying to 791 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,240 invite the i get a landslide of this 792 00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:22,240 stuff you know constantly you know hey 793 00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:24,159 you guys look at this and you know tell 794 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,799 me about it well 795 00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:28,480 people have to remember though for a 796 00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,799 scientific analysis of their footage you 797 00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,559 know there's only so much we could do 798 00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:34,399 even if we did 799 00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,080 do an analysis on it a we weren't there 800 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,720 b we have no way of knowing you mean we 801 00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,559 don't know what what device they filmed 802 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,120 it on we don't know where they were 803 00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:47,200 their gps location the azimuth of the 804 00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:49,440 camera we don't know you know there's so 805 00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,640 much we don't know about that film 806 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,120 that as far as i'm concerned every 807 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:58,000 single thing i get is a really good fake 808 00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,440 yeah right 809 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,039 you know i got you yeah we've even 810 00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:03,279 thrown away some of our own stuff 811 00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:05,039 because we forgot to set the azimuth on 812 00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:07,120 the camera wow you couldn't go back and 813 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:10,399 say well we think it was at 263 degrees 814 00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,120 sure 815 00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:13,200 because we don't know so we have to 816 00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:14,799 discount whatever it was that that 817 00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,240 camera captured because we were the 818 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,480 dumbasses that that 819 00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,640 the azimuth or we got to go back and 820 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:22,799 basically verify the azimuth from other 821 00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,880 cameras you know because you know if 822 00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:26,559 there was another camera that caught the 823 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:29,039 same same event then we can 824 00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,799 then we can kind of you know 825 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:32,640 we can figure it out but 826 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,200 yeah so like he said we've had 827 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,960 you know and unfortunately during 828 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,720 certain circumstances that we'll be able 829 00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,640 to talk about further later you know 830 00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:42,240 that that may have happened a couple of 831 00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,549 to kind of really hit it home 832 00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:50,240 there was one incident 833 00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:52,880 no dates times and locations but we 834 00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,799 thought we had caught something that was 835 00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:56,399 really really important 836 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,720 but we couldn't use it because like i 837 00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:00,480 said we had no idea where the camera was 838 00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:04,159 pointing luckily we had other cameras 839 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,120 that were around that had taken pictures 840 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:08,960 of where that camera was 841 00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:11,679 so we had to go back into google maps 842 00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:14,000 get satellite imagery of where we were 843 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,600 posted up and use trigonometry to figure 844 00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,760 out how the camera was pointed what the 845 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:21,519 elevation of it was what the direction 846 00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:24,240 of it was and then figure out you know 847 00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,919 kind of kind of go back into the data 848 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,360 and plug in 849 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:29,440 the uh the directionality of the camera 850 00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,440 to be able to use that data 851 00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:33,840 wow that's amazing 852 00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:35,519 um i've just noticed this coming here 853 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:37,279 from my friend lara paranormal pixie 854 00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,080 saying 855 00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,000 could you give an example of a typical 856 00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,159 typical investigation day 857 00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:44,640 yes the boring details too and i'll just 858 00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,559 follow up with saying so if you get to a 859 00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,919 location and let's say you've got the 860 00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,679 osiris and and 861 00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:51,679 any other extra equipment is there a 862 00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:54,799 base level of what you want set up 863 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:57,200 immediately to start the day 864 00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,960 and as you start that i'm just going to 865 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,200 check on my daughter i've had a shout 866 00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:02,960 all right uh well 867 00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:04,720 for me uh i'm gonna go ahead and take 868 00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:06,880 that one because of uh we can't really 869 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,720 talk about 870 00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,480 it all starts with coffee 871 00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:12,159 no yeah yeah 872 00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:15,279 coffee and breakfast um a lot of coffee 873 00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:17,039 but 874 00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,399 what and how we did the 875 00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,320 the our current first expedition we 876 00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:24,080 can't really talk about but i can't talk 877 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:26,159 about how we plan on setting things up 878 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,200 in the future um so 879 00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:30,720 if you can picture 880 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:32,000 uh 881 00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:38,000 a second vehicle that's very similar 882 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:42,640 uh towing two military style trailers um 883 00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,080 that are 884 00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:46,480 what size of those trailers oh six by 885 00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:47,360 eights 886 00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:50,320 they're 6x8 military trailers with 887 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:53,120 antennas sticking out of them 888 00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,480 and then an rv pulls up behind that you 889 00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:58,240 know that's that's going to be our basic 890 00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,360 setup for you know remote locations 891 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,360 um then 892 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:05,360 we'll set all of our gear up we'll have 893 00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,080 standalone stuff that's set up and 894 00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:10,559 dialed in by azimuth and direction and 895 00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:11,519 everything 896 00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:14,320 and then we'll also have these two pull 897 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:15,840 behinds that we're going to have in our 898 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:17,279 truck that we're going to be able to go 899 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:18,640 drop off 900 00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:21,840 to basically triangulate data with 901 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:23,360 and then of course we'll be able to use 902 00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:24,480 our trucks 903 00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:26,960 as mobile command centers but the 904 00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:29,360 the actual you know the camper or the 905 00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:31,919 mobile home or the the yeah the camper 906 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:34,480 will actually be set up for 907 00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,880 you know that'll have basically a a 908 00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:38,880 nerve center in it and plus provide us a 909 00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:41,679 nice little comfy spot to sleep 910 00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,320 i'm not you know offense but uh i'm 41 911 00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:46,799 years old so glamping is uh all the rage 912 00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:49,039 for me i'm not looking at the pigeon 913 00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:51,200 tent in the middle of sedona so 914 00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,200 and as far as equipment's concerned you 915 00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:55,600 know we we have to spend a lot of time 916 00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:57,600 just getting the baseline measurements 917 00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:58,399 because 918 00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:01,840 if if we throw a survey meter or one of 919 00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:04,399 our muon detectors out there 920 00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:08,000 and and record readings it makes 921 00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,359 no sense 922 00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:11,520 to do that without understanding what 923 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:14,159 the natural background is 924 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:17,280 so right now we even have uh 925 00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:19,200 matthew chidagas our one of our 926 00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:22,159 physicists who is using this equipment 927 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:23,599 on commutes 928 00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,560 and in aircraft and he is taking 929 00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,960 basically coast to coast background 930 00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:30,960 readings with this thing so that we can 931 00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,679 use it as comparative measurements 932 00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:34,960 yeah and this is one thing that i wanted 933 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,399 to reiterate to people as well is that 934 00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,879 you guys are quite separated like 935 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:40,879 location-wise where you live and things 936 00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,800 like that it's not like you guys just 937 00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,639 get together every saturday and go out 938 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:46,079 and 939 00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:48,560 do this yeah nowhere we're quite quite a 940 00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:50,639 basil ways away i'm in florida uh 941 00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:52,480 jeremy's in las vegas 942 00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:54,079 uh 943 00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,760 georgia right yeah georgia and we got 944 00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:01,839 michael hall he's out in california and 945 00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,240 then we got uh matthew and 946 00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,400 and kevin are up in new york 947 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:08,000 um 948 00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:09,440 and then we've got chris hoffman he's 949 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:16,950 yeah so we're pretty spread out um 950 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,800 you know uh 951 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,040 maybe someday you know if we ever get 952 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:24,000 those big numbers like mufon uh 953 00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,240 not not not comparing our comp our 954 00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,079 company with mufon but 955 00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:30,240 if we ever get that kind of operational 956 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,160 you know funding you know we might have 957 00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:33,839 a brick and mortar building where we all 958 00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,560 can 959 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,400 be you know 960 00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:39,359 it's good to have goals man 961 00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,880 i don't really see a too much of a 962 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:43,200 necessity for the brick and mortar stuff 963 00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:44,640 um yeah 964 00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:48,160 yeah we work great remotely already um 965 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:49,839 plus we all have families we love the 966 00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,760 areas we live i know i think me and 967 00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:53,359 jason are about the only people that are 968 00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:54,720 really kind of looking forward to 969 00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:55,599 getting 970 00:36:02,550 --> 00:35:59,359 hell out of dodge from where we're at um 971 00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,560 i can't i can't i can't uh 972 00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,320 i honestly 973 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,160 love the laws in florida but i hate the 974 00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,839 weather 975 00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,960 really 976 00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,560 yeah i absolutely think this weather 977 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,440 here is atrocious uh anything over 65 978 00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:16,000 degrees with a breeze and zero and zero 979 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:19,599 humidity is horrible weather to me 980 00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:22,160 that's funny man i live in i live in the 981 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,440 north of england and you know the 982 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:25,359 reputation of england i'm like i'll take 983 00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:28,160 your over class you're overclouded 984 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:29,680 you're overcast 985 00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,040 cloudy 986 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,079 dreary bone chilling that yeah i 987 00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:35,920 understand that chill in your bone that 988 00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:38,400 you get in those in that weather and you 989 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:41,040 know what i can live off of that stuff 990 00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,240 wow 991 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:44,079 here in vegas it's like 992 00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,480 baking cookies in your oven opening up 993 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:48,560 the door to the oven sticking your face 994 00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:51,920 in it and uh there's no cookies 995 00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:53,599 yeah that was just you opening your 996 00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:58,390 it's like you open your front door and 997 00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:59,359 you have to 998 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,880 you literally got to go get a freaking 999 00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,720 uh scuba mess to breathe in florida 1000 00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:04,160 because it's so humid 1001 00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,960 yeah 1002 00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,280 oh damn it's crazy isn't it you get used 1003 00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:09,359 to where you live and then you kind of 1004 00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:15,190 i don't i don't want to be where jeremy 1005 00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:16,880 is i've been out that way 1006 00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:20,560 i've been to vegas a number of times so 1007 00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:22,960 it's nice and like uh if you go over 1008 00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:24,960 where we were at uh 1009 00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:28,800 uh ufo megacon over in uh 1010 00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:34,150 yeah during right what was that during 1011 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:37,119 the winter we were there 1012 00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:38,880 it was fall 1013 00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:41,280 that's nevada right yeah so if you go 1014 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:43,119 you go out there during the during the 1015 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,560 cold months 1016 00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:46,800 it's it's beautiful 1017 00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:47,760 but 1018 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:49,920 during the summer it's it's an absolute 1019 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,160 nightmare yeah i mean it's it's a desert 1020 00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:54,400 so i mean 1021 00:38:03,829 --> 00:37:58,950 yeah 1022 00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:03,839 in the chat um about somebody was asking 1023 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:06,400 about like like doing investigations and 1024 00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:08,000 stuff and i'd mention you know like kind 1025 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:10,240 of the cost of how how much it costs to 1026 00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:12,800 do it and right uh 1027 00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:14,000 you know for like a week-long 1028 00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,880 investigation it costs a lot of money uh 1029 00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,400 people don't realize just how much it 1030 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,640 cost to get you know to 1031 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:22,560 well for one 1032 00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:24,320 you know just the location we were at 1033 00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:26,079 was a thousand dollars an hour to rent 1034 00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:27,359 the location 1035 00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:30,720 yeah thousand dollars an hour 1036 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,040 five days yeah 1037 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,960 we're there for five days but it but 1038 00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:37,520 your typical your typical five-day i 1039 00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:39,040 mean you're you you got to remember 1040 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:40,640 you've got a you got to have house or 1041 00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,320 lodging you've got to have 1042 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,480 transportation you got to get there so 1043 00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:46,000 you got people coming in from all over 1044 00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:47,359 the place then you got to move your 1045 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,119 equipment so it 1046 00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,040 it adds up luckily luckily for us for 1047 00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:52,800 our first expedition we had somebody 1048 00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:54,800 that was lending us a lot of really you 1049 00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,440 know great equipment you know but uh you 1050 00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,680 know now we're kind of looking at uh 1051 00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:01,680 improving that situation and you know 1052 00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:03,920 basically not being able to not you know 1053 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,119 we kind of learned a lesson about 1054 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:08,000 relying on any one person owning 1055 00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:09,119 equipment 1056 00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,359 um because how it kind of goes now where 1057 00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:13,280 we all kind of have 1058 00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:15,359 this and that and everybody maintains 1059 00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:16,880 their own equipment 1060 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:19,040 the company itself doesn't own any 1061 00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:20,400 equipment so 1062 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,839 um we're hoping within the next 1063 00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:26,160 uh year or so you know 1064 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:28,720 that we'll have a full complement of 1065 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,880 company owned equipment plus 1066 00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,960 also you know our own personal equipment 1067 00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,040 to grow too so especially with the 1068 00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,119 primary members you know the people you 1069 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:38,960 know that aren't peeling anywhere going 1070 00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:40,160 anywhere 1071 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:42,320 yeah yeah entirely and we we've built a 1072 00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:44,720 lot of our own stuff as well i mean 1073 00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:47,680 my garage looks like a 1980s radio shack 1074 00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,160 exploded right now i've seen your garage 1075 00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,480 bro when you came on that uh instagram 1076 00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:54,240 live man like 1077 00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:55,440 that was impressive but the fact that 1078 00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,240 you we were working on some crazy piece 1079 00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:00,960 of equipment as we spoke just proved and 1080 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:03,200 showed that you know it is kind of do it 1081 00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,400 yourself 1082 00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,000 yeah if you do it you make it happen you 1083 00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:08,319 know that was my uh my 1084 00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,319 it's basically an audio encoder that 1085 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,720 takes any type of digital audio and 1086 00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:14,800 encodes it into a laser beam 1087 00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,359 so you know the fcc 1088 00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:19,040 highly regulates any types of 1089 00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:21,119 transmissions you can't have a broadcast 1090 00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:22,480 station or anything like that without an 1091 00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:25,839 fcc license but they do not regulate the 1092 00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:28,400 ability to shine a flashlight or shoot a 1093 00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,560 laser so what i do is i take uh digital 1094 00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:35,599 audio through like an ipod or an iphone 1095 00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:38,720 and i run it through a system that 1096 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:41,440 encodes or it modulates the voltage of 1097 00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:43,200 the laser to match with the the 1098 00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,480 frequencies and the wavelengths of the 1099 00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,800 sound so i can take any sound whether 1100 00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,880 it's you know imagine dragons or a 1101 00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:51,040 recording of you know digital pi 1102 00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:54,800 and if we see an anomalous object and 1103 00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:56,160 after we 1104 00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,000 verify that it's not a domestic 1105 00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:00,480 that sends out information we can shoot 1106 00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:03,440 a shoot a laser beam at it with an audio 1107 00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:05,920 recording and hopefully uh get our 1108 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:07,200 response back 1109 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:09,520 yeah so basically it's it's a lot of a 1110 00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:10,720 lot of 1111 00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:13,119 information for saying that we're able 1112 00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,640 to 1113 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,480 uh utilize 1114 00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:18,400 just about any frequency of light in a 1115 00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:21,280 laser beam ultraviolet infrared and send 1116 00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:22,720 out information 1117 00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,599 and receive information that way great 1118 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:27,599 jeremy didn't didn't you um didn't you 1119 00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:29,200 post some of that on 1120 00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,720 the osiris 1121 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:32,240 yeah instagram 1122 00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:37,270 yeah all the links all the links for you 1123 00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:39,200 guys are in the description below well 1124 00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,640 let's jump on to the osiris because i 1125 00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:42,079 know that you've had teething problems 1126 00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:43,760 over the last year or that so are you 1127 00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,000 able to give us an update are things 1128 00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:49,359 progressing at all yeah yeah so the 1129 00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,960 osiris is going through a refit um when 1130 00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,960 when it goes out on expeditions 1131 00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,880 i have a learning curve 1132 00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,040 because honestly nobody's really ever 1133 00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,560 done this before 1134 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:03,119 so you you outfit it with equipment you 1135 00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:04,880 take it on an expedition you use the 1136 00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:06,400 equipment you find out what works you 1137 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:07,920 find out what doesn't work what could be 1138 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,240 improved and then when you're home 1139 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,040 you've got it you cut all the wires and 1140 00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:15,599 you make it more ergonomical you replace 1141 00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,599 uh you know one camera with one that 1142 00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:20,079 that works better you find out that your 1143 00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,480 your wi-fi absolutely sucks and you 1144 00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:24,640 replace your modems and it just it gets 1145 00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:27,920 rebuilt after every event because you 1146 00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:31,040 learn what works and what doesn't 1147 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,319 right now 1148 00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,560 i just told you guys today as a matter 1149 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:36,640 of fact i'm starting to collect the 1150 00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:39,359 pieces and parts required to build what 1151 00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:42,720 is called a passive radar 1152 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,560 again the fcc doesn't allow you to 1153 00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:46,240 transmit uh 1154 00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,400 the wavelengths that a radar system uses 1155 00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:50,319 without an appropriate license 1156 00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:53,680 but what a passive radar does is our 1157 00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,640 skies are inundated with tv signals and 1158 00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,040 radio signals and everything you know 1159 00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:01,119 that's being broadcast already 1160 00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,920 and aircraft and hopefully uap 1161 00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:06,400 already reflect all those signals so 1162 00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:08,880 what you do is you build a device 1163 00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,119 that takes the reflectivity from all the 1164 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:13,280 signals that are already out there 1165 00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,800 and it measures them and then it 1166 00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:17,520 displays the track of that object based 1167 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,440 on all the other radio signals that it 1168 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,599 that it's uh that's reflecting 1169 00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,280 so that is going to be incorporated into 1170 00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,040 the osiris as well as soon as i'm done 1171 00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:27,920 with it and i think gary i think i've 1172 00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:28,720 heard 1173 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,880 i can't remember where that you plan on 1174 00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:32,800 adding another vehicle to the fleet 1175 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,000 let's say 1176 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,240 oh yeah uh jeremy's been a big 1177 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,160 inspiration and you know 1178 00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:40,000 i get a i've gotten i've got a little 1179 00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:41,839 bit of criticism for having him on my 1180 00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,000 team because of how critical he can be 1181 00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,920 when he's attacked online 1182 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,160 um i don't care 1183 00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:51,119 like praying frankly i don't 1184 00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,800 care because this man has spent endless 1185 00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,160 hours 1186 00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:58,640 writing up articles writing up doing 1187 00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:01,040 tech you know dealing with you know 1188 00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:03,280 problem after problem with you know his 1189 00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:05,359 truck and you know providing his truck 1190 00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,079 to us when we were you know we went out 1191 00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:10,560 skinwalker providing his truck anytime 1192 00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,760 we need it 1193 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:13,839 you know and basically 1194 00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:16,640 you know he himself you know 1195 00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:17,760 uh 1196 00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:20,160 not to just bloat not just to this horn 1197 00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:21,520 i got to deflate him a little bit you 1198 00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:22,640 know he said 1199 00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:25,920 he had to learn how to be a team again 1200 00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,040 you know because i mean he's been out of 1201 00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:29,040 the service a long time like you know me 1202 00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:30,880 and him and jason when we're working 1203 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,960 together physically together we just 1204 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,480 right into lockstep because we're all 1205 00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:37,119 military yeah but you know once we're 1206 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,800 separated and you're in your own home 1207 00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,960 and stuff like that you know we we kind 1208 00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,400 of all have to learn 1209 00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,640 to be that team again you know we're not 1210 00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:46,880 you're not he's not lone wolfing it you 1211 00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,520 know and he had spent so many hours and 1212 00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,599 you know you should have seen the things 1213 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,119 this guy did to make sure that that 1214 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,440 truck was was ready to go and when it 1215 00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,839 when it did break down was able to keep 1216 00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,839 giving good getting and keeping it going 1217 00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:01,920 you know literally pulling he went to 1218 00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:04,800 walmart this guy all right so his his 1219 00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:07,520 his throttle cable broke in his truck 1220 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:08,480 all right 1221 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,040 location yeah on location while we were 1222 00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:14,240 in california and he decides 1223 00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,920 all right i got a great idea i'm gonna 1224 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,000 go to walmart and get a wire a picture 1225 00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:20,400 hanging kit use the wire from that and 1226 00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,960 bungee cords and he literally drove his 1227 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,400 truck home 1228 00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,030 i had a bungee cord going from the motor 1229 00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:31,680 on my throttle cable over my hood around 1230 00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:34,000 the passenger door and i was using my 1231 00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:35,599 hand to control 1232 00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:38,480 the glass pedal so 1233 00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,119 yeah yeah i mean the guys the guy's a 1234 00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:43,520 real-life macgyver and you know 1235 00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,319 his his personality quirks aside you 1236 00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,560 know i've had no problems with him 1237 00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:50,560 you know um 1238 00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:51,599 he uh 1239 00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:54,400 he's been a great addition to the team 1240 00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:57,520 um maintains his position he's done 1241 00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,359 great work um he's a pain in my ass but 1242 00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:03,040 you know 1243 00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,599 so to everybody else 1244 00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,920 yes so but he uh 1245 00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,599 that's that's why i decided to start 1246 00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,520 that you know the save the osiris fund 1247 00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:13,599 because he was he was in a pretty dark 1248 00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,079 place he had had some personal issues 1249 00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,760 happen that were out of his control that 1250 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:20,160 were just a rough situation his truck 1251 00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,240 was broke down the registration was 1252 00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,640 coming due the you know you know he was 1253 00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:26,800 looking at you know pretty grim times 1254 00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,599 and you know i i thought to myself this 1255 00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,440 is the least i can do for this guy you 1256 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,440 know just start start talking to people 1257 00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:35,440 about you know because we need we need 1258 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,280 to get this truck up and running you 1259 00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,760 need to get it operational properly to 1260 00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:41,920 where this he's not having to jury rig 1261 00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,760 this thing every time we bring it on the 1262 00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,359 road you know because i mean it's a 1263 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:48,240 capable vehicle but it's an old vehicle 1264 00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:50,160 which means that things are going to go 1265 00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,960 wrong 1266 00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,680 it needs you know and so 1267 00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,079 the first the first uh portion of this 1268 00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:58,000 is you know basically to get it get it 1269 00:47:01,589 --> 00:47:00,000 up and running get it upgraded get 1270 00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,599 everything working properly and then 1271 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,920 once we get it to where we want it 1272 00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:05,520 you know then i'm gonna change that fund 1273 00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,000 to the osiris maintenance fund you know 1274 00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,160 and i'm still gonna keep telling people 1275 00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,720 you know donate to the osiris because 1276 00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:14,319 you know this this guy puts his heart 1277 00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,440 and soul into this thing and uh you know 1278 00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,000 without those donations that truck just 1279 00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:22,400 rots you know i mean he's putting his 1280 00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:24,240 own money well i mean when it comes down 1281 00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:27,359 to it any time his family has a problem 1282 00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:28,640 it's going to end up being put in the 1283 00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,400 back burner because the money's just not 1284 00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,720 going to be there's no extra money no 1285 00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:34,480 i'm not you know 1286 00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:37,440 so priorities isn't it family first you 1287 00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,160 know we're exactly volunteers in uapx 1288 00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:41,839 none of us get paid 1289 00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:44,480 we all either have jobs or are looking 1290 00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,119 for jobs plus we all have families 1291 00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:49,680 and uapx is more 1292 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,559 requirement than a normal 40 hour a week 1293 00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,400 job so we're balancing everything that 1294 00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:56,079 we do with uapx 1295 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,599 with our nine to fives and with our 1296 00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,520 families and trying to maintain sanity 1297 00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:01,040 at the same time of course 1298 00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:03,200 understandable i think people just see a 1299 00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:04,319 little bit of 1300 00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,359 us 1301 00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,280 and i don't mean necessarily me as much 1302 00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:09,680 but a little bit as they see us on 1303 00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,760 twitter and social media talking about 1304 00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:13,440 uap and that and 1305 00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,720 i mean 1306 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,720 they don't see the family and the 1307 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,480 day-to-day life you have to go through 1308 00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,240 and then the spare minute you get to do 1309 00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:22,319 a little bit of something you do it and 1310 00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:23,119 it's 1311 00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:25,040 none of us have golden clad toilets in 1312 00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,750 you don't 1313 00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:31,520 i thought 1314 00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,750 [Laughter] 1315 00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:41,440 that ufo money you're lucky if you get a 1316 00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:42,960 hole in the ground 1317 00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:45,760 right yeah no it's uh 1318 00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:48,079 it's it's a labor of of i'm not even 1319 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,359 going to say it's a labor of love but 1320 00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,839 it's a labor of of passion because they 1321 00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:53,200 have dedication 1322 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,040 you have to be 1323 00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,640 dedicated to 1324 00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,119 wanting the final answer 1325 00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:01,040 yeah and and you know all of us have 1326 00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,440 been touched in one way or another by 1327 00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:05,760 our own individual experiences regarding 1328 00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:08,160 the phenomenon and we're all here for 1329 00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:10,559 one unified goal of finding out what the 1330 00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:12,319 hell that was 1331 00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,800 i mean you say that my my my experience 1332 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,880 with the phenomena is is not a personal 1333 00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:18,720 thing i've never seen anything but it's 1334 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:20,960 because of people like you guys who 1335 00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:23,520 you know only a few years ago when i was 1336 00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:25,680 sat in the background in my in probably 1337 00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:28,480 in this room in front of this computer 1338 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,119 you know on my own for many nights 1339 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:33,440 watching stuff digging deep into 1340 00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:34,720 documents and 1341 00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,760 hearing your guys stories that kept 1342 00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:39,599 pushing my passion higher and higher to 1343 00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:40,960 the point where i had to become involved 1344 00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,760 in the subject so you know it does 1345 00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:47,440 i may be different from you guys in that 1346 00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,599 respect but at the same time we are in 1347 00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:50,720 that 1348 00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:53,839 answers and 1349 00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:56,000 doing our own part where we can and you 1350 00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:57,599 know i'm dedicated to it to the point 1351 00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,599 where i could be out 1352 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:00,880 earning 1353 00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:03,359 a really really good wage doing my old 1354 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,119 it work and stuff but i don't i 1355 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,200 dedicated to this and 1356 00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:08,880 you know i'm not looking for a sob story 1357 00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,400 or or even i'm not looking for thanks 1358 00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,720 but i'm just being realistic and letting 1359 00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:14,800 people know that it ain't just a simple 1360 00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:16,559 case of yeah we do this for the crack 1361 00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:17,920 and 1362 00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:21,680 you have to take a break you have to 1363 00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:23,839 step back from this because this is such 1364 00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,559 an enigma it's such a mystery wow speak 1365 00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,559 for yourself so many well there's so 1366 00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:30,720 many rabbit holes that you can go down 1367 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,520 yeah and i think to be honest with you i 1368 00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,160 think that we here at uapx 1369 00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:37,839 we actually have it easier than a lot of 1370 00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:38,839 other people 1371 00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:41,440 because everybody else that's out there 1372 00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,880 is you know they're doing what you did 1373 00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:44,079 vinnie they're going through historical 1374 00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,240 documents they're looking at cases and 1375 00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,839 we know that there are a lot of things 1376 00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,200 that are fabricated there's a lot of 1377 00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,440 lies out there there's disinformation 1378 00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,680 and some of it is so damn convincing 1379 00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:55,440 that you don't know what you're reading 1380 00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:57,839 is the truth or not we don't deal in 1381 00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,559 that 1382 00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,160 we deal in 1383 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,480 scientific facts that we may not have 1384 00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:04,640 the flashy uh you know we're gonna drop 1385 00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:07,760 this video at new high noon on friday uh 1386 00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:09,760 [\h__\h] but uh you know 1387 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:11,599 you can guarantee what you do get from 1388 00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,400 us is going to be the real deal yeah but 1389 00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:16,720 it may not you know it may not be up to 1390 00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:17,520 your 1391 00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,520 we're going to keep at it until we do 1392 00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:23,119 give you something that is up to your 1393 00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:24,880 hopes and desires and hopefully what we 1394 00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:26,079 do have 1395 00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:30,160 will blow everybody away you know um 1396 00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:31,680 there's a question is there any way that 1397 00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:33,359 you can help us uh well there's three 1398 00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:34,720 there's three ways that you could help 1399 00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:36,559 uapx either uh 1400 00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,240 you can donate to the 1401 00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:39,839 save uh 1402 00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,640 the osiris fund to help with upgrades 1403 00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:43,839 and 1404 00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,160 if you go to our website 1405 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,319 you can you can donate one of two ways 1406 00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:52,000 there's a tiny little link in the middle 1407 00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:53,359 that's a uh 1408 00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:56,079 that's a paypal donation place where you 1409 00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,160 can actually donate once or you know a 1410 00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:00,160 one-time donation or we actually have a 1411 00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:02,839 patreon set up right through our website 1412 00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:06,000 um we also have some crypto payments uh 1413 00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,319 on on that as well there's the qr codes 1414 00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:10,559 if if anybody is crypto savvy and wants 1415 00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:12,400 to do donations in crypto we can accept 1416 00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:15,200 those as well yeah yeah so 1417 00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:16,480 there's you know there's a lot of ways 1418 00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:18,880 you can help so i mean it's you know we 1419 00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:20,480 need the crypto for our black market 1420 00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,870 but uh those are for the most vouchers 1421 00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:28,800 yeah yeah that's that's that's for when 1422 00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,319 we start working with raytheon 1423 00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:34,079 don't even joke because people will take 1424 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,829 take that snippet 1425 00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:43,829 if you go to the raytheon website they 1426 00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,280 actually promote the 2004 event 1427 00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:49,280 uh the nimitz encounter basically saying 1428 00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,599 that they tracked on on you know you are 1429 00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:53,760 focused with their systems 1430 00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:54,960 so 1431 00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,720 i thought that was pretty uh pretty 1432 00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:58,800 pretty badass 1433 00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:01,040 what that's crazy 1434 00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:02,800 yeah there's there's some there's some 1435 00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,480 wild stuff out there 1436 00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,400 you know sitting back and and kind of 1437 00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:08,640 scouring over social media and reading 1438 00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:10,160 about ourselves 1439 00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:13,040 it's amazing to see the rumors 1440 00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:16,240 that have been ascribed to us 1441 00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:18,640 you know there's a rumor that the united 1442 00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,680 states government passed on our offer of 1443 00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:23,760 giving them data 1444 00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,000 first off we haven't finished analyzing 1445 00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:29,359 our data second we're not we and i'll 1446 00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:32,559 say it again we will not provide the u.s 1447 00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:36,000 government early access or direct access 1448 00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:37,280 outside of 1449 00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:39,040 the way that the public gets it 1450 00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:40,800 hold on i'm gonna call you at that they 1451 00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:42,640 show up armed at my house they can have 1452 00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:47,030 i'm not going to go on these i'm not 1453 00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:48,319 going to get in there 1454 00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,599 right now 1455 00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:51,359 no oh dog 1456 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,119 cold did my no no my family's in the 1457 00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:54,960 house dude these dudes show up here you 1458 00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:56,960 go yeah but you know when it comes down 1459 00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,880 to it as an organization we are not 1460 00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,640 providing the data to anybody at the 1461 00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:02,800 moment at all nobody not even just 1462 00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:04,800 ourselves that's our scientists nobody's 1463 00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,400 passing on it nobody's even had a chance 1464 00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:08,319 to evaluate it and say it's good or it 1465 00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:11,440 sucks i mean yeah that has not happened 1466 00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:13,760 uh there was another one that uh i saw 1467 00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:16,559 on reddit somebody said that uapx was 1468 00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:19,359 projecting whale song into the ocean to 1469 00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:22,480 attract you underwater uaps no 1470 00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,440 no we don't project anything into the 1471 00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,040 ocean and we certainly don't broadcast 1472 00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,280 whale songs up into the air either 1473 00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,520 i think that i think that probably is 1474 00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:33,760 strapulated from our you know like our 1475 00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:35,680 origins though because like when we 1476 00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:38,880 first started uh kevin day had this 1477 00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,240 uh idea that you know these uaps might 1478 00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,000 be tracking you know whale pod 1479 00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,240 migrations through that area 1480 00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:47,520 yeah 1481 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:51,280 that may have been like where that kind 1482 00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:53,200 of evolved from 1483 00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:54,559 so i mean you know how you know how 1484 00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:56,960 these things evolve on twitter and on 1485 00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:00,000 4chan and you know and all these other 1486 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:02,240 you know friggin and reddit i mean 1487 00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,760 reddit i mean 1488 00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:05,680 right it's almost as bad as twitter at 1489 00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:06,960 this point 1490 00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,630 well we started our own discord channel 1491 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,040 and and the discord channel in less than 1492 00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:17,520 a month has gone from like five people 1493 00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:19,839 to almost uh i think we're we're 1494 00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:22,960 approaching the 500 person mark now whoa 1495 00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:24,319 now i'm going to go ahead and give all 1496 00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:26,160 the credit to jeremy for this because i 1497 00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:27,839 actually created this discord channel 1498 00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,040 like 1499 00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:31,200 months and months and months and months 1500 00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:33,280 ago it's just like okay i'm just going 1501 00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,960 to set it up just wait no you know just 1502 00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,720 you know just to have that place marker 1503 00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:39,119 for uapx on there you know yeah 1504 00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:42,319 so no nobody else can like take the uapx 1505 00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,599 name you know 1506 00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:45,520 and uh then jeremy's like oh we got a 1507 00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,280 server oh like yeah here we go invite 1508 00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,680 boom next thing you know we got like 1509 00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,839 you know three you know 100 followers 1510 00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,280 and i can't even keep up with the chat 1511 00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:54,880 anymore you know because it used to be i 1512 00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,240 could be able to pop on there and i had 1513 00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,319 my three faithful guys that were always 1514 00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:00,640 in there asking questions and you know 1515 00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:03,040 and then uh i hop back up now i get on 1516 00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:04,880 there and i'm like i don't even bother 1517 00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:06,480 to try to read all the [\h__\h] i just go 1518 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:07,920 right to the bottom and i say hey guys 1519 00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,240 i'm here what's going on 1520 00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,960 it's amazing because it's the antithesis 1521 00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:13,920 of twitter 1522 00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,920 twitter is restricted in character 1523 00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,920 limitations you're you're forced to be 1524 00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:19,680 very curt and very direct with your 1525 00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:20,640 comments 1526 00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:23,119 on our discord channel it's it's not a 1527 00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:25,680 hate fest it's a community of people who 1528 00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,880 are actually 1529 00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,520 you know using their words to ask 1530 00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:31,839 questions and provide opinions and you 1531 00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:34,720 know i haven't had to ban anybody 1532 00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:37,040 from there it's it's self-policing and 1533 00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:38,400 it's a really cool place to kind of 1534 00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,359 chill out and honestly i mean 1535 00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:42,880 unless you want to come onto our server 1536 00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:45,119 and just be a straight dick 1537 00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,799 you're not going to get banned if you 1538 00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:49,200 have a contrary opinion i i'm a big 1539 00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:51,280 proponent as you can tell you know mick 1540 00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:53,119 west he's my boy 1541 00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,400 uh you know 1542 00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:56,559 i i don't have a problem with anybody 1543 00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,160 that's cynical i don't have a problem 1544 00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,240 with anybody with like 1545 00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:02,000 a you know i don't care if you come on 1546 00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,359 the server and say you guys are all full 1547 00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:05,280 of [\h__\h] and what you saw was government 1548 00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,520 crafts okay it might be i don't i don't 1549 00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:09,280 know 1550 00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:11,359 yeah your theory could be right but it's 1551 00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:13,280 just unless you got proof it's just as 1552 00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:15,040 whacked out as ours you know 1553 00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:16,880 absolutely somebody just asked where to 1554 00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:18,640 find the discord server if you guys go 1555 00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:21,000 to our website uh 1556 00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,440 uapexpeditions.org on the bottom of 1557 00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:26,400 every page is an icon that will take you 1558 00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:28,880 to an invite for the discord server 1559 00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,640 for everybody watching this that's not 1560 00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:32,400 live and after the fact i will add this 1561 00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,799 as soon as this finishes i'll pop it in 1562 00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:36,240 the description with all the other links 1563 00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,960 so 1564 00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,079 don't worry 1565 00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,960 yeah and uh in the future uh i'm working 1566 00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,960 on a podcast of my own 1567 00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,400 um 1568 00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,880 uh so it's uh you know it's gonna be you 1569 00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,640 know it's gonna be something individual 1570 00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:50,240 something for me to have on my own 1571 00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:52,880 platform to kind of you know 1572 00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:55,359 feel good about myself 1573 00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:56,720 is that is this the youtube channel that 1574 00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:58,319 you've currently got set up already or 1575 00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,319 is that a new thing uh no uh i'm 1576 00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:01,680 probably gonna end up rebranding that 1577 00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:02,640 channel 1578 00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:03,920 um 1579 00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:06,319 it's it'll still be me but i you know 1580 00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,599 i'm i'm uh i'm paying for the fancy 1581 00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:11,359 stuff to be you know 1582 00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,760 developed for me you know the name and 1583 00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:15,200 everything like that 1584 00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:18,000 um and when before anybody says oh he's 1585 00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:19,440 paying for his you know 1586 00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:21,839 i'm not paying for subscribers i'm just 1587 00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,119 paying for 1588 00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,599 cool overlays and and to look a little 1589 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:27,119 bit more professional because if you go 1590 00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:29,200 up to my site now and you see lunch with 1591 00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,349 so yeah 1592 00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:37,839 that brings up another thing our website 1593 00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:42,000 um we've redesigned it and it's not 1594 00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:43,200 great 1595 00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:44,079 um 1596 00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,480 we are again all volunteers none of us 1597 00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:48,319 are paid and i don't think there's 1598 00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:51,760 anybody on staff with uapx that has 1599 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:54,319 any experience in uh marketing or 1600 00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:56,880 graphic design or anything like that so 1601 00:59:01,990 --> 00:58:59,280 what we've put out there is the product 1602 00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:02,000 of our own effort we didn't have anybody 1603 00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:04,400 come in and put it together so 1604 00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:07,280 so forward if you think it's shite just 1605 00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,720 remember 1606 00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,559 we we didn't go to school for that we 1607 00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,240 just were like that looks cool yeah it 1608 00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:14,400 looks cool all right let's do it 1609 00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,400 yeah so um i only got a couple more 1610 00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:18,720 minutes to give you guys uh 1611 00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:21,119 if uh if there's any other questions 1612 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,119 that you have any or if there's like 1613 00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:25,280 something specific to me that you want 1614 00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,400 to talk about now's the time because uh 1615 00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:30,240 i can't keep my sister in there with 1616 00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:32,480 that that horde of children for too much 1617 00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,880 longer hey brother i appreciate that so 1618 00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,400 much man and no i don't this was 1619 00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:38,079 literally what i said to you guys or the 1620 00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,839 other guys before is that i wanted this 1621 00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,440 to be an organic conversation i didn't 1622 00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:43,440 want to throw massive questions at you 1623 00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:45,839 guys because i know 1624 00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:47,040 there probably wouldn't be massive 1625 00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:48,400 answers because we're still in that kind 1626 00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:50,079 of period where we're waiting and you're 1627 00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,240 under your nda for the for the what 1628 00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,240 everybody really wants to know so this 1629 00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:56,640 was just a touch base speak to you guys 1630 01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:58,720 let us know what's going on and we can 1631 01:00:01,829 --> 01:00:00,559 speak again later in the year maybe in 1632 01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:01,839 the summer when 1633 01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:03,760 you're a lot freer and now yeah we're 1634 01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:05,920 gonna we're gonna be going home yeah 1635 01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:08,960 yeah what's what's once the unsaid 1636 01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:10,960 project that we can't talk about that we 1637 01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:12,079 might have 1638 01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:15,359 done uh does uh debut 1639 01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:16,400 um 1640 01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:18,559 we'll be free to talk about a lot more 1641 01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:21,359 but also remember that yeah we still 1642 01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:22,720 have scientists that are working on 1643 01:00:26,309 --> 01:00:24,880 stuff and they'll have just to submit i 1644 01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:26,319 mean they're all they're working on 1645 01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:28,400 their whitepapers right now which means 1646 01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:29,839 that they're going to be submitting them 1647 01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:32,079 around march time frame which means that 1648 01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,480 they may not even be published yet 1649 01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:36,480 but as soon as they say that they're 1650 01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:38,079 comfortable with us starting to share 1651 01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:40,000 this data that's that the data is going 1652 01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:43,040 to start going out but it's you know 1653 01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:44,240 it's 1654 01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:45,119 still 1655 01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:46,799 you know 1656 01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:48,319 we're still going to be going through 1657 01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:50,799 them the the you know kevin and matthew 1658 01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:52,720 to make sure what they want i feel 1659 01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,880 comfortable with us talking about 1660 01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:56,720 and since we're not the scientists we 1661 01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:58,000 want to make sure that we're talking 1662 01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:00,400 about them correctly and that we're not 1663 01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,640 you know we're not misrepresenting 1664 01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:04,720 anything so it's we can talk about the 1665 01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:06,880 process of how the papers get published 1666 01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:08,720 but we can't talk about the science in 1667 01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,280 there because honestly there's equations 1668 01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:13,119 inside of there that make my brain melt 1669 01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,150 yeah they send that across to me and i'm 1670 01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:20,640 like i'm a knuckle dragger you know like 1671 01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:22,319 eight like i 1672 01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:25,200 i'm a bit the opposite i i try to 1673 01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,480 replicate it and then realize that 1674 01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,799 they're using programs 1675 01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,240 oh you should you should have seen that 1676 01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,760 realization in my head you know so 1677 01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:33,359 they're sending out this stuff for us 1678 01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:35,119 and you know i'm over there with pen and 1679 01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:37,040 paper and i'm like oh geez 1680 01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:38,480 freaking out of christ how little how 1681 01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:40,640 they do this so fast you know i'm i'm 1682 01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:42,720 literally doing this all out by hand and 1683 01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:43,920 you know and i'm like i don't even 1684 01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:45,520 understand how they do all this stuff by 1685 01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:47,920 in matthews like oh yeah we use computer 1686 01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:50,400 programs they just it does we pump and 1687 01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:52,640 we punch in the numbers and do this and 1688 01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:56,079 it just pops up to the dance i'm like oh 1689 01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,280 supposed to shoot a glimpse thanks for 1690 01:02:00,870 --> 01:01:59,520 sharing all that yeah well 1691 01:02:02,309 --> 01:02:00,880 if you if you went to college and you 1692 01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,319 worked in the field i mean it's just 1693 01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,079 like with any job you know it's like 1694 01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:06,000 when i was a cable guy you know i mean 1695 01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,359 how many of you guys know how to run a 1696 01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:09,520 dsam meter that run that can 1697 01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:12,240 you you know that can check your cable 1698 01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:14,160 you know 1699 01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:18,480 you don't know the shortcuts until you 1700 01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:21,039 you're in the field so yeah absolutely 1701 01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:23,039 man but listen gary man 1702 01:02:26,549 --> 01:02:25,039 i appreciate your time man we were i 1703 01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:26,559 don't we won't keep you any longer 1704 01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:28,400 brother i really do appreciate your time 1705 01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:31,280 so much man you've been supportive of me 1706 01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:33,520 personally and i appreciate that so much 1707 01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:36,960 man so yeah jeremy 1708 01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:39,440 i try i try man but like i said to these 1709 01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,799 guys earlier i support these um 1710 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:44,880 i say these there aren't any others like 1711 01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:46,240 you and i supported you guys from the 1712 01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:48,400 start and i'll continue to do whatever i 1713 01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:50,400 can for you guys to to push your message 1714 01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:52,480 your work anything you're doing out 1715 01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:54,240 there i am a hundred percent on your 1716 01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:58,000 side so just know that no no any time 1717 01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,319 man so gary you can jump off whenever 1718 01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:02,160 you want i'll keep jeremy and jason 1719 01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:04,079 because if anybody in the chat really 1720 01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:06,319 does have any burning questions fire 1721 01:03:10,230 --> 01:03:08,640 away yeah 1722 01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:10,240 jason's been doing good he's been in 1723 01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:11,920 that chat now 1724 01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:14,559 yeah normally i have three monitors so i 1725 01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:20,150 when you get a little bit later of a 1726 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:21,920 podcast it's a lot easier for me because 1727 01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:24,210 i know the kids are down 1728 01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:25,440 [Music] 1729 01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:27,359 jeremy jason if there's any pressing 1730 01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:29,200 matters i can still be reached by text 1731 01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:32,160 message to answer any specific questions 1732 01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:34,079 and stuff like that so thank you for not 1733 01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:35,440 turning on your turn signal while you're 1734 01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:37,680 in your car yeah 1735 01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:39,680 bro there you go the blinkers the 1736 01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:41,440 blinkers 1737 01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:43,599 is it really that loud it sounds like 1738 01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:44,960 one of the wind-up monkeys that's 1739 01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,750 we'll just say i might have to we we 1740 01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:51,599 have a weekly meeting and sometimes i'm 1741 01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:54,240 on the road 1742 01:03:57,910 --> 01:03:56,319 so i hit my i'm sitting there waiting at 1743 01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:57,920 the light and jason's over there losing 1744 01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:02,710 he came up in the private chat earlier 1745 01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:04,319 and i was like okay 1746 01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,640 i i hear you i guess i gotta hit i gotta 1747 01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,640 hear it for myself one day hey guys 1748 01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:10,559 record it for me one time 1749 01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:12,640 yeah 1750 01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:14,319 all right take it easy guys thank you 1751 01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:15,680 for having us 1752 01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:17,280 it's an honor and a pleasure 1753 01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:18,960 thank you my friend appreciate it yeah i 1754 01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:21,680 just i just saw a uh a question in here 1755 01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:23,760 has the data you collected changed your 1756 01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:25,599 uh you changed any of your minds and and 1757 01:04:28,870 --> 01:04:27,760 i'm going to tell you right now 1758 01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:28,880 yeah 1759 01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:33,280 i'm the skeptic i'm a skeptic when it 1760 01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:35,920 comes to all this so like 1761 01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,359 yeah 1762 01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:39,839 damn that's about as far as i can go 1763 01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:41,520 that's cool man i'm gonna give a quick 1764 01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,119 shout out to walker dale i know i've had 1765 01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:44,400 you on the screen for a while thank you 1766 01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:46,240 so much for the five dollars love your 1767 01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:49,119 work gentlemen echo one rules 1768 01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:51,520 thank you so much man i appreciate that 1769 01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:53,680 damn jason that's a statement and i like 1770 01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:56,240 it so that gives me hope that gives me 1771 01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,079 hope for the future 1772 01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,000 you know i i think i think the best way 1773 01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:01,920 to describe the way that i come into 1774 01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:03,839 this is is always 1775 01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:04,880 you know 1776 01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:07,440 to me anything that i see is 1777 01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:09,920 provable until it's unprovable and then 1778 01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:12,400 it's um it's man-made until it's not 1779 01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:14,160 man-made 1780 01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:15,039 right 1781 01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:17,680 i like that yeah totally yeah 1782 01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:19,599 we don't care what 1783 01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:21,359 i'm not gonna say we don't care 1784 01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:23,760 we don't have a vested interest in the 1785 01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:25,359 ultimate answer 1786 01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:27,200 if it turns out 1787 01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:31,920 everything is domestic and has a prosaic 1788 01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:33,280 explanation 1789 01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:34,640 that's the answer 1790 01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:36,480 if it turns out that a portion of it is 1791 01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:39,599 and the rest of it is is off world 1792 01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:41,839 that's the answer but 1793 01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:45,359 we are approaching this in a way to find 1794 01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:46,720 the answer 1795 01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:50,960 not to create data that conforms to an 1796 01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:53,520 answer right sure 1797 01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:54,960 makes sense yeah 1798 01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,200 yeah i mean it is what it is and i'm not 1799 01:06:02,470 --> 01:05:59,760 i i hate it when people 1800 01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:02,480 sensationalize things i absolutely hate 1801 01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:03,599 it 1802 01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:04,559 yeah 1803 01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:08,880 we can because in this subject that 1804 01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:10,319 ain't easy 1805 01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:12,559 yeah we got we got taken to task for 1806 01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:15,760 that press release and it was like 1807 01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:17,440 people were saying that we were hyping 1808 01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:19,200 discoveries and that you know this is 1809 01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:21,599 another incident of somebody saying that 1810 01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,119 they have all this miraculous stuff but 1811 01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:24,960 we can't tell you right now 1812 01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:27,839 and it was literally nothing more than 1813 01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:30,960 an end-of-year statement to recap 1814 01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:34,000 what we've done what we're working on 1815 01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:36,720 and when people can expect to see our 1816 01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:40,000 results we don't even have our final 1817 01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:41,680 results yet right 1818 01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:43,440 so we weren't hyping anything we were 1819 01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:46,480 just keeping people informed of progress 1820 01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:48,160 yeah no absolutely when i saw that i was 1821 01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:49,839 like god you guys hired someone good to 1822 01:06:54,789 --> 01:06:51,680 write that 1823 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:54,799 yeah i'm kidding i'm kidding hey 1824 01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:56,130 cat on the back johnny 1825 01:07:01,829 --> 01:06:58,240 [Laughter] 1826 01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:04,470 so one of the things that i do and 1827 01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,160 one of the reasons that i've i've caught 1828 01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:07,920 so much crap on twitter 1829 01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:09,119 is because 1830 01:07:12,950 --> 01:07:10,960 my previous occupation i was a tech 1831 01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:12,960 writer for the us defense industry 1832 01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:15,680 specifically with drones i worked for a 1833 01:07:19,589 --> 01:07:17,119 company that 1834 01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:19,599 maintained built flu 1835 01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,839 design payloads for a wide variety of 1836 01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:25,200 military 1837 01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:27,039 unmanned aerial vehicles 1838 01:07:29,829 --> 01:07:28,799 so and i carry a clearance i still have 1839 01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:29,839 a clearance 1840 01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:30,799 but 1841 01:07:35,109 --> 01:07:32,720 my job was to go out 1842 01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:35,119 interview subject matter experts 1843 01:07:40,069 --> 01:07:37,520 find out what our capabilities are 1844 01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:40,079 and then write proposals and submit them 1845 01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:42,079 to the us government on behalf of this 1846 01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:44,240 company so if the government was saying 1847 01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:46,880 hey we need a unmanned aerial vehicle 1848 01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:48,640 that's capable of sixty thousand foot 1849 01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:52,000 flight 22 000 kilometer uh um of 1850 01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:53,680 coverage area and with this sensor 1851 01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:55,599 payload i would have to write the 1852 01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:58,000 capability statement of what we have how 1853 01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:00,240 it can do its job and everything so i'm 1854 01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:03,280 i'm very keyed in to the world of drones 1855 01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:05,200 and one of the reasons i got so much 1856 01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:07,520 crap on twitter is because when people 1857 01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:09,440 would post videos 1858 01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:10,960 i would look at them and i'd be like oh 1859 01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,280 that's an rq9 oh that's you know an 1860 01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:15,359 mq-185 1861 01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,920 i knew what it was because i was privy 1862 01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:19,679 to that world 1863 01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,080 and i've even had discussions with with 1864 01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:24,560 our physicists because the science that 1865 01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:27,759 they're using to analyze the data 1866 01:08:33,669 --> 01:08:31,679 is based on what is available to them 1867 01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:33,679 if they don't have a clearance if they 1868 01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,319 don't know that something exists they 1869 01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:38,719 have to base their analysis on things 1870 01:08:43,269 --> 01:08:41,040 that that they're aware of 1871 01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:43,279 so i've had to educate these guys a 1872 01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:45,279 little bit every now and then as to you 1873 01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:47,040 know there's some really wild stuff in 1874 01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:50,000 our skies that nobody has any idea about 1875 01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:52,239 totally um i'm just going to check on my 1876 01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,920 daughter again sorry guys but i'm going 1877 01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:55,679 to throw this question up 1878 01:08:58,870 --> 01:08:56,719 um 1879 01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,880 how do you avoid biases in the analysis 1880 01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:00,480 of the date 1881 01:09:05,130 --> 01:09:02,080 or the data retrieved i think they've 1882 01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:05,140 been i'll listen in 1883 01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:07,520 [Applause] 1884 01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:10,960 i think i'll start that is um 1885 01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,640 when you when you when you start the 1886 01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:14,560 analysis of the 1887 01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:16,400 the information that we've already 1888 01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,279 retrieved the bias in which direction 1889 01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:20,960 that you're wanting it to be 1890 01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:23,279 could definitely show up 1891 01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:26,560 but when you've got other people within 1892 01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,799 your group who are looking at this from 1893 01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:31,359 a completely different perspective 1894 01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:33,440 and you take all the collective 1895 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:35,440 information and put it together because 1896 01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:37,120 you've got somebody like me who's the 1897 01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:39,440 who's a skeptic who's like you know this 1898 01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:41,359 can be explained and what we do is we 1899 01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:43,199 try to prove ourselves wrong we'll say 1900 01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:44,960 you know okay this is what we think it 1901 01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:47,199 is let's prove ourself 1902 01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:50,239 wrong and prove that this is 1903 01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:52,480 you know whatever so 1904 01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:54,719 when you when you can prove yourself 1905 01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:55,760 wrong 1906 01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:58,320 and let somebody else do that and then 1907 01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:59,840 prove you wrong 1908 01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:01,679 uh and then you go back and forth and 1909 01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:02,560 and 1910 01:10:05,830 --> 01:10:04,080 jeremy i don't know if you can add some 1911 01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:05,840 more well the other thing that people 1912 01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:08,800 have to remember is we have one phd 1913 01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,080 candidate and two doctoral phds with 1914 01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:13,920 uapx that are physicists these are 1915 01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:16,400 academics tenured professors that are on 1916 01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:18,400 staff at universities 1917 01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:20,800 and the uap phenomenon 1918 01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:24,159 is a career ending death move 1919 01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:27,280 for most academics it's changed a little 1920 01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:29,679 bit recently but it's still not taken 1921 01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:32,239 that seriously in in in the academic 1922 01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:34,560 community so if a 1923 01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:37,679 if a report comes out from uapx authored 1924 01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:40,960 by our physicists that is slanted 1925 01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:43,040 towards something being off-world 1926 01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:45,040 technology or they come out and make a 1927 01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:47,760 definitive claim that something is alien 1928 01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,080 that could be career ending for them so 1929 01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:52,560 we have to look at things not only 1930 01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,360 through 1931 01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:54,800 science 1932 01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:56,719 but really 1933 01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:59,040 definitively get down into the minutia 1934 01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:00,880 of things to make sure 1935 01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:03,199 that the papers that are published don't 1936 01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:07,120 affect the careers of our physicists so 1937 01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:09,040 we have to be very cautious in how we 1938 01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:10,560 approach it and it's not saying that 1939 01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:13,679 we're out to disprove everything but we 1940 01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:14,719 are 1941 01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:19,520 if if we say something is anomalous 1942 01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:22,640 we have to have you know 350 000 pages 1943 01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:25,280 of data to back it up that it is in fact 1944 01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:26,400 anomalous 1945 01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,679 right 1946 01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:30,000 totally um moving on to this i mean 1947 01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:31,520 thank you for that that was awesome both 1948 01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:32,400 of you 1949 01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:33,280 um 1950 01:11:37,990 --> 01:11:35,280 alienworld aquatics says how come there 1951 01:11:39,910 --> 01:11:38,000 isn't much talk about underwater drones 1952 01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:39,920 jeremy mcgowan i think i think we know 1953 01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,840 more about the surface of mars than we 1954 01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,679 do about you know the the floor of our 1955 01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:45,920 own ocean yeah this this is a human 1956 01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:49,360 condition we have not studied our own uh 1957 01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:51,440 ecosystem we don't know what's under the 1958 01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:53,440 water we're finding species every single 1959 01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:55,840 day and it's 1960 01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:57,840 it's a hostile environment it's easier 1961 01:12:02,790 --> 01:11:59,840 to go to space than it is to go to the 1962 01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:02,800 bottom of the mariana trench 1963 01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:04,960 makes sense i think that's quite common 1964 01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,880 knowledge really that we've explored 1965 01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:08,960 very very little of those 1966 01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:10,880 depths across the pacific and the 1967 01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:13,760 atlantic and those those trenches so 1968 01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:15,120 yeah i mean 1969 01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:16,719 people stand on the surface of the 1970 01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,360 planet and we look up and we see strange 1971 01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:21,440 things in the sky there's not a lot of 1972 01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:22,800 scuba divers out there that are 1973 01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,719 reporting strange things and able to 1974 01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:27,120 pull their iphones out and photograph it 1975 01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:28,239 good point 1976 01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:30,560 that makes complete sense 1977 01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:32,800 well listen gentlemen thank you so much 1978 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:34,159 um 1979 01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:36,000 oh i get 1980 01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:37,760 we'll give it up a question just popped 1981 01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:39,760 up so i'll i'll bring it up it says does 1982 01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:41,760 jeremy know or think a trans medium 1983 01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:44,400 drone is in full operation right now oh 1984 01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:46,400 yeah just look at the bat 1985 01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:50,320 we we've had uh the bat uh it's a small 1986 01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:52,880 drone it's uh probably about half of my 1987 01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,840 size 1988 01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:55,360 and it's actually launched from a 1989 01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,520 torpedo tube of a submarine 1990 01:13:02,390 --> 01:12:59,600 it can go fly around for a while and 1991 01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,400 then it can come back under water and be 1992 01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,800 submarine retrieved now we've we've had 1993 01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,719 these in operation for quite some time 1994 01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:08,640 there you go and that's not the only one 1995 01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:10,159 throughout this one last question from a 1996 01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,080 good friend you on a question for both 1997 01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:14,560 has your view on this topic changed 1998 01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:20,470 there you go and i wouldn't expect you 1999 01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:23,120 to go into detail 2000 01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:25,840 um guys thank you so much for the 2001 01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:27,840 questions we could probably keep going 2002 01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:29,440 but i'm going to let these guys get on 2003 01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:31,520 with their their day-to-day lives 2004 01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:33,280 because i really do appreciate the time 2005 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,560 they've given us we're nearly on the 2006 01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:36,480 hour and a quarter mark so 2007 01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:38,480 gentlemen thank you so much um for 2008 01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:39,679 everyone watching if you do want to 2009 01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:41,440 carry on the conversation i may jump 2010 01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:43,199 over to instagram live in a bit if you 2011 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,040 want to come and hang out there i'll be 2012 01:13:49,270 --> 01:13:47,520 there but um this was a conversation 2013 01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:49,280 that i wanted to have and i knew they 2014 01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:51,440 were in the middle of an nda so i knew 2015 01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,640 this wasn't going to be a massive 2016 01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:54,239 revelation conversation but i just 2017 01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:56,239 wanted to reiterate to people that you 2018 01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:58,000 apx have been doing great work they 2019 01:14:01,910 --> 01:14:00,000 continue to do great work but at the 2020 01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:01,920 same time they're just regular people 2021 01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:05,040 like me and you who are putting their 2022 01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,520 families to one side their 2023 01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:10,000 day-to-day careers to one side 2024 01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:12,320 to you know in pursuit of the same thing 2025 01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:13,760 that we're all looking for which is the 2026 01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:15,840 truth and getting to the bottom of this 2027 01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:17,199 phenomena so 2028 01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:19,280 i just wanted to do that for this time 2029 01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:21,679 of year and and to say that we 2030 01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,520 appreciate the work they do 2031 01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:25,600 i will be supporting them fully forwards 2032 01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:27,199 and continuing the conversation with 2033 01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:28,880 them um 2034 01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:29,760 any 2035 01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:32,000 funding that they require i will put our 2036 01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:33,440 information on that you can go to the 2037 01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:36,640 uapx website it's all linked below 2038 01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:38,880 you know this is real people doing real 2039 01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:40,880 work this is not government related in 2040 01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:43,040 any way shape or form 2041 01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:44,000 so 2042 01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:45,679 i have to reiterate that and thank you 2043 01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:46,960 gentlemen for joining me tonight i 2044 01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:48,400 really do appreciate it yeah thanks 2045 01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:50,480 vinnie you know like and something else 2046 01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:51,920 i want to say is you got you got a trip 2047 01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:53,920 coming up too that uh i think it's going 2048 01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:56,000 to be really interesting so i'm looking 2049 01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:57,760 forward to following you on that that's 2050 01:15:02,390 --> 01:14:59,760 going to be it's going to be fun man 2051 01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:02,400 thank you man you know i i talk the talk 2052 01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:04,000 i do 2053 01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:06,400 the posts and put things out there but 2054 01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:07,920 you know it's good for me to get an 2055 01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:09,440 opportunity to do boots on the ground 2056 01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:11,280 work you know 2057 01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,960 it would it would just certainly add to 2058 01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:14,560 my 2059 01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:16,159 i don't know what the word is but who am 2060 01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:18,320 i to deny that opportunity to actually 2061 01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:19,920 say hey look i care about it this much 2062 01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:21,360 that i'm gonna do it 2063 01:15:25,270 --> 01:15:23,440 yeah it happens to be a nice place i'm 2064 01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:25,280 getting flown out to colombia to do it 2065 01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:28,080 but it's not a holiday in any way 2066 01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:30,159 shape or form like i just you know just 2067 01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:32,800 to reiterate that phrase it's every day 2068 01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:35,040 early mornings late nights 2069 01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:39,120 experiments hiking trekking through 2070 01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,840 beautiful terrain now i'm kidding that 2071 01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:43,120 it's going to be tough but yeah i'm 2072 01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,320 going to bring everybody along for the 2073 01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:47,120 ride we're filming a documentary there's 2074 01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:48,640 you know it's just going to be a chance 2075 01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,800 for me to prove my proof to myself as 2076 01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:52,480 much as everybody else that i'm in this 2077 01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:53,920 for the long haul 2078 01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:56,560 i'm in this for the right reasons and um 2079 01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:57,520 yeah 2080 01:16:01,990 --> 01:15:58,800 stay humble 2081 01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:02,000 this is 2082 01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:04,080 well yeah that's a really good point 2083 01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:05,760 that hits home because you know i met 2084 01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:07,120 you jason 2085 01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:08,960 go on what do you hope to get out of 2086 01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:10,480 columbia 2087 01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:12,239 do you know what an explanation 2088 01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:13,600 and at the moment 2089 01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:15,280 the way i look at the phenomena that 2090 01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:17,760 we're going to be exploring my lien is 2091 01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:20,080 way towards prosaic but you know what 2092 01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:21,520 what what that one will mean to me is 2093 01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:23,040 that we'll be one thing ticked off the 2094 01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:25,280 list and i can move on to the next 2095 01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:28,080 you know i'm not expecting ufos and uap 2096 01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:30,400 and i'd love it to be obviously but 2097 01:16:33,910 --> 01:16:31,920 it's like it's an opportunity to go 2098 01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:33,920 boots on the ground do some work some 2099 01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:35,760 work put some graft in 2100 01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:36,960 you know and not just sit behind a 2101 01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:39,040 computer or a phone and put posts out 2102 01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:41,120 there and research and 2103 01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:43,120 spend hours behind screens it's a chance 2104 01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:46,080 to actually put my mouth where 2105 01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:52,470 mouth too 2106 01:17:00,950 --> 01:16:57,910 well i tell you what when you come back 2107 01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,960 from colombia man uh get with us 2108 01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:02,880 because you know one of the things that 2109 01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:04,880 we would love to do is we would love to 2110 01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,880 take a look at that data we would love 2111 01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:08,560 to be able to 2112 01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:10,560 even even work with you prior to the 2113 01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:12,400 trip to help you set up a standard 2114 01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:15,199 operating procedure that would allow our 2115 01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:18,400 physicists to be able to review the data 2116 01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:20,159 knowing the provenance knowing how the 2117 01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:22,640 equipment was set up and you know the 2118 01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:23,760 things right down to the the 2119 01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:25,360 directionality of the cameras and 2120 01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,600 everything like that and we'd love a 2121 01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,679 chance to be able to take a look at that 2122 01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:31,600 that's really really 2123 01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:33,280 wow that's really nice of you to say so 2124 01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:35,199 i mean we have a guy who's 2125 01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:38,080 ex-military xcia with all the some 2126 01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:39,920 serious equipment that's coming out with 2127 01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:40,880 us so 2128 01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:42,800 i'll put that to the to the boss who's 2129 01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:44,640 behind it all um and we'll have 2130 01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,960 conversations so it's good to know that 2131 01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:48,640 we have that support as well though so i 2132 01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:50,800 really do appreciate it yeah we don't 2133 01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:53,360 compete with anybody we we're we're all 2134 01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:55,120 humans we're all trying to find the same 2135 01:17:58,149 --> 01:17:56,000 answer 2136 01:17:59,669 --> 01:17:58,159 um you know we're we're not doing this 2137 01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:59,679 for fame god knows we're not doing it 2138 01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:00,880 for fortune 2139 01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:02,800 we're doing it for the final answer and 2140 01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,719 whoever gets that final answer i just 2141 01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:06,239 hope to god they share it with everybody 2142 01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:07,040 else 2143 01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:08,880 yeah absolutely well like absolutely i 2144 01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:10,239 mean i'm in that 2145 01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:11,520 i'm in this 2146 01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:13,520 for that exact reason i'm honored to be 2147 01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:15,840 able to be associated with 2148 01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:19,199 um such organizations as uapx so to to 2149 01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:21,760 me to be able to work alongside 2150 01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:24,080 it's a no-brainer absolute no-brainer it 2151 01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:26,719 means it means so much so i really do 2152 01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:30,080 appreciate it appreciate your view 2153 01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:32,320 thank you so much guys so guys thank you 2154 01:18:35,189 --> 01:18:34,000 so much i'll let you crack on to 2155 01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:35,199 everyone that's watched this live i 2156 01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,880 really do appreciate you do everyone 2157 01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:38,560 that watches this after the fact on 2158 01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:40,400 youtube thank you so much 2159 01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:42,239 and this will also be going out on the 2160 01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:44,400 anomalous podcast network in association 2161 01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,880 with the that ufo podcast 2162 01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:48,480 so thank you everybody i really 2163 01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,800 appreciate your your support it's been 2164 01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:51,840 humbling 2165 01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:54,320 for the last year and i will continue to 2166 01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:56,480 do it so thank you so much and we'll see 2167 01:19:01,830 --> 01:18:59,520 you tomorrow where ross coulthart joins 2168 01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:01,840 me and you can head over to my social 2169 01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:04,239 media pages for all the details but for 2170 01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:05,280 now